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| From | Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: experts aren't |
| Date | 2017-02-14 10:40 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <o7umq4$64j$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <60nu9c916reeui8gbsj3ddinq2nsok98e5@4ax.com> |
On 11/02/2017 18:59, John Larkin wrote: > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/01/government_industrial_strategy_is_not/ The jury is still out on graphene and its analogues. No doubt they would have railed against the waste of money on lasers when no-one would ever be able to afford a pencil sized perfect ruby crystal and massive flashlights had they been around at the time. The big problem with blue sky research is that you can never tell in advance which things will later prove to be very important. There is no doubt that the UK government is lousy at picking industrial winners or patenting major academic inventions. They gave away radar, the jet engine and more recently monoclonal antibodies (the latter if it had been patented would easily have funded UK scientific research). The place where things usually go awry is in the seedcorn stage going from a small startup to the first step on the global ladder. In the UK increasingly startups get bought up by global players to refund the initial investors with a quick profit before they can fully fledge. The profits then all go offshore - ARM holdings got done over last year by the weakened pound and London putting short term profit above long term investor gain and SOftBank now own them. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36822272 > This aligns with the Black Swan concept > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_swan_theory > > https://www.amazon.com/Black-Swan-Improbable-Robustness-Fragility/dp/081297381X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1486838879&sr=8-2&keywords=black+swan > > and, he notes modestly, my general theory that, except in the rare > fields of study that are subject to proof by experiment, most experts > are usually wrong, and most experts are even wronger than the average > truck driver, and more expertise makes them yet wronger. You like to believe that because it fits with your ignorant prejudice against knowledge and skills. The problem in the UK is that government is run by and for London and the South East - it has been government policy to maintain a huge north south divide in prosperity and jobs. That in part explains why the Brexit vote happened the way it did. The irony being that the places that voted to leave were net beneficiaries of EU policy to help struggling economic regions. > EEs are usually right about our electronics, because our stuff has to > work. Plenty of electronics stuff doesn't and without software based simulations of modern electronic chip designs they would be almost impossible to fabricate with anything like acceptable yields. -- Regards, Martin Brown
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experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-11 10:59 -0800
Re: experts aren't Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-11 19:14 +0000
Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-11 11:28 -0800
Re: experts aren't rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 18:07 -0500
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Re: experts aren't John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> - 2017-02-11 15:08 -0800
Re: experts aren't djlocher56@gmail.com - 2017-02-12 14:21 -0800
Re: experts aren't bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-12 16:16 -0800
Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 17:20 -0800
Re: experts aren't Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-13 12:50 +0000
Re: experts aren't Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-13 13:51 +0000
Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-13 08:25 -0800
Re: experts aren't bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-13 17:16 -0800
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Re: experts aren't Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-11 23:37 +0000
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Re: experts aren't whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> - 2017-02-11 17:19 -0800
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Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-11 16:36 -0800
Re: experts aren't bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-12 12:27 -0500
Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 10:52 -0800
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Re: experts aren't Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-12 19:28 +0000
Re: experts aren't Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-12 11:44 -0800
Re: experts aren't bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-12 15:05 -0500
Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 12:25 -0800
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Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 12:32 -0800
Re: experts aren't bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net> - 2017-02-12 15:44 -0500
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Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 13:11 -0800
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Re: experts aren't bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-11 16:58 -0800
Re: experts aren't Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-12 15:36 +0000
Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 08:36 -0800
Re: experts aren't Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-12 19:44 +0000
Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 12:38 -0800
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Re: experts aren't Julian Barnes <jb9889@notformail.com> - 2017-02-13 00:53 +0000
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Re: experts aren't John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-12 17:27 -0800
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Re: experts aren't Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-02-14 10:40 +0000
Re: experts aren't tabbypurr@gmail.com - 2017-02-14 03:42 -0800
Re: experts aren't bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-14 04:14 -0800
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Re: experts aren't Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-17 21:17 +0000
Re: experts aren't M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2017-02-18 16:46 -0500
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