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| From | Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: Vaccinations |
| Date | 2017-02-08 11:51 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <o7fp7o$h75$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 2/8/2017 10:12 AM, John Larkin wrote: > On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 21:08:24 +0000, John Devereux > <john@devereux.me.uk> wrote: > >> Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> writes: >> >>> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 17:57:22 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom >>> <curd@notformail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:56:02 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>>> I opted for the pneumonia one... all the rest, including flu, I avoid. >>>>> >>>>> My father always got the annual flu vaccine... and always ended up with >>>>> the flu. I haven't had the flu since 1964... knock on wood ;-) >>>> >>>> I've avoided the flu one too and haven't had flu for over 40 years - >>>> until now. The flu I could have handled without too much hassle, BUT it >>>> weakened my immune system and opened me up to Shingles, which I'm still >>>> suffering the after-effects of. Shingles pain can be *excruciating* at >>>> times, I won't forget it in a hurry. Consequently, out of fear of getting >>>> shingles again, I plan to take care of my immune system in future and >>>> that includes getting the flu jab from now on. >>> >>> I may succumb to taking the shingles vaccine... you're all scaring me >>> :-( >> >> Not to pile on but... >> >> My mother was very seriously ill from it this Christmas. VZV >> encephalitis. Often, the complications from many of these infectious diseases are more threatening than the infections themselves. E.g., VZV attacking any of the cranial dermatomes poses risks for brain, eyes, etc. Pneumonia is also a big concern. And, INITIAL onset later in life can be significantly more of a challenge than dealing with it as a child. It is highly contagious and a "reportable" disease, here (US). >> My daughter had chickenpox a couple of years ago, it is a horrible >> virus, big boils everywhere, inside and out. She is scarred for life, >> though not noticably on the face luckily. >> >> I have since learned that there is a vaccine for it but it is not >> routine in the UK (as I gather it is in the USA). It should be. Vaccination requirements vary by state, here. The majority of states require HepB, DTP (diptheria/tetanus/pertussis), Polio, Measles/Mumps/Rubella (MMR) and Varicella. But, this is typically only checked on admission to a (public) school system. Most folks neglect to receive boosters (e.g., DTP is suggested every 10 years) esp later in life. And, the effectiveness of vaccines fades over time. Despite having chickenpox as a child, I managed to 'catch' it, again, a couple of years ago. Much milder case that my body dispensed with promptly. OTOH, much more memorable (as a kid, you have someone to attend to your discomfort; as an adult, "suck it up" :> ) [In my case, both hands were affected. Ever try to scratch your palm? Amazing how far down (in?) the infection is, there! :< Thankfully, other than the inability to "satisfy the itch", I was largely symptom free -- and no of no one who caught the virus from my infection (perhaps another measure of its non-virulence?)] > Yes. And old people get shingles, a reoccurrence of the same latent > infection. Like other herpes-family viruses, it hides out in the sensory ganglia once infected (and symptoms appear to abate). There is some question as to whether it is a *continuing* infection or a resurgence. To my dismay, it's hard to get authoritative answers on: - will this increase/decrease my susceptibility to a "shingles" infection? - will the location of the primary symptoms from this "infection" be a good indicator of the likely targeted dermatome in a subsequent shingles infection? - which other childhood diseases that you *thought* afforded "immunity for life" don't?
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Vaccinations Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 17:50 -0700
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-06 16:55 -0800
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:26 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 17:56 -0700
Re: Vaccinations "dcaster@krl.org" <dcaster@krl.org> - 2017-02-06 17:01 -0800
Re: Vaccinations Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 18:04 -0700
Re: Vaccinations Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-07 12:21 +1100
Re: Vaccinations Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-06 18:57 -0700
Re: Vaccinations Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-07 13:17 +1100
Re: Vaccinations Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> - 2017-02-07 10:22 +0800
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:35 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2017-02-07 13:39 +1100
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 23:31 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2017-02-06 22:47 -0500
Re: Vaccinations John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-06 20:46 -0800
Re: Vaccinations bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com - 2017-02-07 02:20 -0800
Re: Vaccinations dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2017-02-07 11:30 -0800
Re: Vaccinations John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-07 12:03 -0800
Re: Vaccinations Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:22 +0800
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 05:23 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:39 +0800
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-08 06:12 -0800
Re: Vaccinations David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 15:38 +0100
Re: Vaccinations M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> - 2017-02-09 19:27 -0500
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-09 16:59 -0800
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-08 06:09 -0800
Re: Vaccinations David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 15:39 +0100
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:05 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Martin Riddle <martin_ridd@verizon.net> - 2017-02-06 22:45 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-07 08:21 +0000
Re: Vaccinations Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-07 08:19 +0000
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 04:20 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-07 09:42 +0000
Re: Vaccinations Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-07 17:57 +0000
Re: Vaccinations Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-07 11:12 -0700
Re: Vaccinations "tom" <tmiller11147@verizon.net> - 2017-02-07 15:43 -0500
Re: Vaccinations krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-07 21:15 -0500
Re: Vaccinations amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-02-08 07:46 -0600
Re: Vaccinations krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-08 12:45 -0500
Re: Vaccinations dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt) - 2017-02-08 11:33 -0800
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:19 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:57 +0000
Re: Vaccinations krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-08 13:16 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> - 2017-02-08 18:32 +0000
Re: Vaccinations Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-08 12:09 -0700
Re: Vaccinations John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2017-02-07 21:08 +0000
Re: Vaccinations David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-08 12:45 +0100
Re: Vaccinations Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-08 18:00 +0000
Re: Vaccinations krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-08 13:16 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> - 2017-02-08 11:28 -0700
Re: Vaccinations krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-08 20:33 -0500
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 17:26 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-08 23:09 +0000
Re: Vaccinations Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-08 15:33 -0800
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-08 15:42 -0800
Re: Vaccinations Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-08 23:43 +0000
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 20:56 -0500
Re: Vaccinations David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-09 10:58 +0100
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 05:35 -0500
Re: Vaccinations David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-09 12:54 +0100
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 07:20 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-09 13:38 +0000
Re: Vaccinations David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-09 14:56 +0100
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 17:47 -0500
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-09 17:16 -0800
Re: Vaccinations Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-09 16:40 +0000
Re: Vaccinations amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-02-09 11:04 -0600
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 17:46 -0500
Re: Vaccinations amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2017-02-09 09:15 -0600
Re: Vaccinations Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-10 16:36 +0000
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-10 16:41 -0800
Re: Vaccinations John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-08 09:12 -0800
Re: Vaccinations Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-08 09:36 -0800
Re: Vaccinations John Larkin <jjlarkinxyxy@highlandtechnology.com> - 2017-02-08 12:40 -0800
Re: Vaccinations Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-08 11:51 -0700
Re: Vaccinations John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2017-02-09 15:02 +0000
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-09 17:46 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2017-02-10 16:52 +0000
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-10 16:46 -0800
Re: Vaccinations krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-09 21:12 -0500
Re: Vaccinations bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-09 19:01 -0800
Re: Vaccinations John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2017-02-10 08:23 +0000
Re: Vaccinations krw@notreal.com - 2017-02-10 12:23 -0500
Re: Vaccinations John Devereux <john@devereux.me.uk> - 2017-02-10 18:09 +0000
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-07 16:31 -0500
Re: Vaccinations artie <artie.m@gNOSPAMmail.com> - 2017-02-06 17:28 -0800
Re: Vaccinations Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> - 2017-02-06 19:11 -0700
Re: Vaccinations rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-06 21:34 -0500
Re: Vaccinations Frank Miles <fpm@u.washington.edu> - 2017-02-07 01:52 +0000
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