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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?

From Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?
Date 2016-08-14 22:24 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <noqr21$4i6$5@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink)
References (14 earlier) <090820161421341198%nospam@nospam.invalid> <nofa4j$1re8$1@gioia.aioe.org> <e117diF3iqtU1@mid.individual.net> <noolos$10oc$2@gioia.aioe.org> <140820160007261570%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 00:07:26 -0400, nospam wrote:

> there's also a logic analyzer, ios only:
> <https://www.oscium.com/logic-analyzers/logiscope>

You must be used to talking to Apple people only.

Again, you cherry pick as if you're used to dealing only with Apple owners
who don't know the first thing about doublechecking their sources!

Sure, for $200, "LogiScope transforms your iPhone, iPad, iPod into a 100
MHz, 16 channel logic analyzer".

But, guess what?
A simple search shows that far better tools exist that perform the same
functionality on Android (for free!).

And most work on *all* standard platforms *except* iOS!

For example, here is open-source logic-analyzer software, which works on
all platforms *except* iOS (i.e., Android, Linux, Mac OS X, Windows,
FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, x86, ARM, Sparc, PowerPC, etc.).
https://sigrok.org/

Here, is another one that pops up early in the search, where it's cross
platform (which such things should be) on Android, Linux, Windows, OSX,
and, oh, BTW, not iOS unless it's jailbroken!):
https://www.lab-nation.com/

So, as always, you're actually *limited* by the primitive and highly
restrictive iOS operating system such that you have to pay far more just to
get done what others can do for free on the more modern open operating
systems.

Here's an open-source 100MS/s Oscilloscope for iPad, Android and PC:
http://powerelectronics.com/blog/first-100mss-open-source-oscilloscope-ipad-android-and-pc

As always, you're *limited* by iOS, as explained in that last article
(verbatim):
 "Although the required functionality (USB-OTG) is becoming a standard for
Android devices the past few years, we were not able to get cooperation
from Apple (yet ;). As such, our team set out to start from jailbroken iOS
devices, and hack our way to the USB controller, which we eventually
succeeded in. However, this means the SmartScope will only be recognized in
case you apply a jailbreak patch to your iOS smartphone..."

You cherry pick, but you are so used to dealing with non-technical Apple
buyers that you forget that not everything Apple Marketing Mommy tells you
is true.

In this case of a logic analyzer, you can pay $200 for one that works with
a non-jailbroken iOS device - or - for free - you can get a better one that
works with Android (and every other operating system *but* iOS!).

As always, the primitive iOS limits the user's ability to get things done.

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Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:37 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 15:43 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:54 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-02 22:28 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:18 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:43 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 23:51 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 04:21 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:34 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-02 23:43 -0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 07:06 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:47 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:04 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:13 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 08:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:05 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 03:54 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 04:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 21:03 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 10:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:33 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 09:15 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:06 +0200
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:07 +0200
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 06:38 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 16:40 -0400
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-03 13:43 +0000
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-03 07:08 -0700
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:33 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 12:41 -0400
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:35 +0000
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 17:37 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 14:47 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:03 +0000
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              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:30 +0000
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            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
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              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:57 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:07 +0200
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 17:37 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-04 13:51 +0000
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      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-05 16:51 -0300
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 00:25 +0000
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-05 22:05 -0300
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 02:46 +0000
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                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 14:42 +0000
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                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-14 18:59 -0400
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