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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?
Date 2016-08-09 14:21 -0400
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Message-ID <090820161421341198%nospam@nospam.invalid> (permalink)
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In article <nocvtf$l3p$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Aardvarks
<aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:

> On 6 Aug 2016 19:59:25 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote: 
> On Android, people *don't* "just give up", like they constantly do on iOS.

nobody gives up on ios either. 

that's just more of your ignorant trolling.

> And despite Michael Eyd's incessant crying that the big blue hairy monster
> "is" still in the closet even though nobody else can see it but he, the
> fact is that the Google AdId *was* completely eliminated - simply because
> Android is a modern customizable mobile operating system.
> 
> Already knowing that the far more primitive iOS operating system can't
> possibly wipe out the AdID, it hit upon me a second much more clever
> approach on Android to turn off not only the AdID, but also the entire
> Google Play and Location Services capabilities, without adversely affecting
> the apps which don't require them.
> 
> This second more clever method worked fine in my tests this morning, and as
> far as I can tell, Google spying is 100% completely eliminated in that
> there is no AdID anywhere. Location services are not running. Google Play
> isn't running.
> 
> And the apps that don't require them work just fine.
> When you want to use apps that require them, you can temporarily turn them
> on.
> 
> This is the type of flexibility and control one would expect of a modern
> and customizable mobile operating system.
> 
> Unfortunately, it's currently impossible to get the same privacy on iOS.

nonsense.

privacy on ios is well ahead of anything you can possibly get on
android, mainly because apple doesn't track users the way that google
does and greatly limits what apps can do. 

tl;dr - the privacy you seek is already there. 

all the disabling you do on android is not only a pain, but you can't
disable everything and what you do disable can prevent a lot of things
from working normally. google makes its money by tracking users, not
selling/licensing android.

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Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:37 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 15:43 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:54 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-02 22:28 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:18 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:43 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 23:51 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 04:21 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:34 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-02 23:43 -0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 07:06 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:47 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:04 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:13 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 08:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:05 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 03:54 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 04:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 21:03 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 10:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:33 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 09:15 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:06 +0200
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:07 +0200
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 06:38 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 16:40 -0400
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-03 13:43 +0000
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-03 07:08 -0700
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:33 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 12:41 -0400
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:35 +0000
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 17:37 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 14:47 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:03 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 14:08 -0500
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:30 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 07:30 -0500
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:56 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 09:37 +0200
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:57 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:07 +0200
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 17:37 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-04 13:51 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? knuckle <ce47d491@opayq.com> - 2016-08-04 16:56 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-08-04 11:01 -0700
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 20:13 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 20:17 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-05 16:51 -0300
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 00:25 +0000
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-05 22:05 -0300
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 02:46 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-06 00:40 -0300
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 14:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-06 10:54 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 15:14 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-06 15:05 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? JoeDee <email@domain.com> - 2016-08-06 13:31 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-06 15:05 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-06 15:03 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-06 15:37 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 19:59 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? JoeDee <email@domain.com> - 2016-08-06 16:14 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-09 23:21 +0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-09 16:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-09 14:21 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-10 20:27 +0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-08-10 08:37 -0500
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-10 08:37 -0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-10 08:37 -0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-10 17:43 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 02:41 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-14 00:07 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 22:23 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-14 19:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 22:24 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-14 18:59 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 22:24 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-14 18:59 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 22:24 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-14 23:35 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 00:10 +0000
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                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 06:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-16 19:25 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-16 19:58 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-17 17:11 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-17 17:11 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-08-19 18:43 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-09 02:11 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-09-09 02:20 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2016-08-16 14:06 -0500
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-16 19:30 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-14 17:56 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-14 14:09 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-14 18:18 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 22:23 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-14 23:32 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-15 02:06 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 22:23 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-14 23:33 +0000
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