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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?

From Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?
Date 2016-08-14 02:41 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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On 10 Aug 2016 17:43:15 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Your idiotic Christmas tree layout is fucking ugly; you should be
> embarrassed.

I originally had a circle, with the phone in the center, and the apps
ringed around it in two concentric circles, most important apps and folders
in the inside.

But I like the pyramid because it's the universal building block with the
most-often used apps on top.

Let's see what *your* desktop looks like.
:)
  
> No need to try it, and wouldn't want something that fugly anyway. 

There are so many things you "just can't do" on the more primitive iOS.

One of them is the ability to put app icons anywhere you like. 
That's like being stuck in the stone age of desktop guis.

Another thing you can't do on the primitive iOS is put apps icons in
multiple places. Again, you're stuck in the stone age.

And, another thing you have to do in the primitive iOS is build your own
App Drawer app from scratch.

Modern operating system launchers have all that, and (far) more.
On iOS, you "just can't do it".

> Many people actually like the iOS launcher and find it plenty useful even if
> it doesn't fit with your idiotic "my way or you suck" rigid world view. 

You see?
Do you see how you completely missed the point?

It's *you* who has the one-button-mouse mentality.

You can't see any other way of doing things but the one-button-mouse way
that Apple Marketing sees fit to provide to you.

Yet, you don't even realize that if we wanted to set up our systems the way
you set up yours, we could. We can set them up *any* way we like.

You see, we have a multi-button-mouse mentality.
You are forever stuck in the rigid primitive one-button-mouse world.

You even see having the ability of any solution as a drawback!
That's proof positive you're stuck in the primitive one-button-mouse
mentality!

As a whole, iOS users can think in only single-vector solutions.

And, when they see a multi-vector solution - they ridiculously deprecate
it, even though it can do everything they can do - and far (far) more.

>> How do you completely eliminate the AdID on your primitive non-customizable
>> iOS?
> 
> You haven't shown that you can completely eliminated it on Android. You
> hid it, and then just gave up.

Heh heh ... I'm trying really hard not to say how stupid you sound in your
every breath.

I should be more gentle with you so I will only mention that, as above, we
can do *everything* you can do, and more. 

It's trivial for us to get rid of the AdID. 
You can't do it.

Not only that, but you claim there are little green monsters among us
(since you live in fear) and then when I say show me where you get that
idea, you repeat your made-up claim that the little green monsters are
among us.

You provide zero proof of these little green monsters, whereas I showed
exactly how to eliminate them.

The reason you repeat your entirely made-up claim about the little green
monsters among us is simply that you can't do it. 

You can't eliminate the Appleware spy id. 
We can.

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Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:37 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 15:43 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-02 19:54 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-02 22:28 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:18 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 03:43 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-02 23:51 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 04:21 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:34 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-02 23:43 -0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 07:06 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 06:47 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:04 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:13 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 08:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:05 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 03:54 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-08-04 04:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 21:03 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 10:57 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:32 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:33 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 09:15 +0200
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:54 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:06 +0200
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-03 11:07 +0200
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 06:38 -0400
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Meanie <meanie.brat@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 16:40 -0400
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-03 13:43 +0000
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-08-03 07:08 -0700
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 16:33 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 12:41 -0400
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:35 +0000
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 16:00 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 17:37 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 14:47 -0400
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 19:03 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2016-08-03 14:08 -0500
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:30 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? ElfinArc6 <elfinarc6@gmail.com> - 2016-08-04 07:30 -0500
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-03 15:19 -0400
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:56 +0000
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 09:37 +0200
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 10:57 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Michael Eyd <invalid@eyd.de> - 2016-08-04 13:07 +0200
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-03 17:37 +0000
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jim H <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2016-08-04 13:51 +0000
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? knuckle <ce47d491@opayq.com> - 2016-08-04 16:56 +0000
  Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> - 2016-08-04 11:01 -0700
    Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-04 20:13 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-04 20:17 -0400
      Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-05 16:51 -0300
        Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 00:25 +0000
          Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-05 22:05 -0300
            Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 02:46 +0000
              Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-06 00:40 -0300
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 14:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-06 10:54 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 15:14 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-06 15:05 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? JoeDee <email@domain.com> - 2016-08-06 13:31 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-06 15:05 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-06 15:03 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-06 15:37 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-06 19:59 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? JoeDee <email@domain.com> - 2016-08-06 16:14 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-09 23:21 +0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-09 16:42 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-09 14:21 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-10 20:27 +0700
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? joe <none@domain.invalid> - 2016-08-10 08:37 -0500
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-10 08:37 -0700
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                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-10 17:43 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 02:41 +0000
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-14 00:07 -0400
                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 22:23 +0000
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                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-14 22:24 +0000
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                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-14 18:59 -0400
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                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-08-16 06:42 +0000
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                Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-08-14 17:56 +0000
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