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Re: The cones of Gauss

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: The cones of Gauss
Date 2016-08-11 09:41 -0500
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On 8/10/2016 9:49 PM, Peter Riedt wrote:
> The cones of Gauss
>
> Gauss theorem is relevant. In 1809 he published ‘Theoria Motus Corporum Coelestium
> in sectionibus conicis solem ambientium’ (Theory of the celestial bodies moving in
> conical sections around the sun’).
>
> Cones are very important in the subject of gravity. But Sylvia's and Bod's
> understanding is not correct.
>
> Sylvia's cones are inverted cones with the apex at the centre of the sun or a planet.
> Their base is at the surface where she assumes the gravity is at the maximum decreasing
> to zero at the centre. Let me ask Sylvia a question: "What makes a surface special in
> that gravity decreases from it to the centre and also that it decreases from it into
> the depths of space? Why is gravity at a maximum at the surface?"
>
> Bod's understanding is based on gravity being affected by the makeup of the inside
> of a solar object. He also quotes Gauss' theorem where gravity is due to the mass
> inside a radius. But he does not understand the meaning of 'radius'. He assumes it is
> zero at the centre. Gauss theorem does not. Gauss' radius has a base the width and
> breath of the equatorial plane of a solar body (Sun's radius=696000km) and is the
> base of a cone with an apex at each planet and all other solar objects. Gravity is
> at a maximum at the centre and decreasing to the surface and out into space in
> every direction.
>

Peter, Gauss was a prominent mathematician, and he had many theorems. 
You have confused two of this theorems and taken the one that is not 
relevant.

The one you want is this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss%27s_law
and as applied to gravity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss%27s_law_for_gravity

Peter, I suspect you made this mistake by trying to google things for 
yourself rather than reading a book about physics and gravity. Are you 
so impoverished that you cannot acquire a book?





-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-10 19:49 -0700
  The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 20:25 -0700
    The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 20:30 -0700
      The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 20:51 -0700
        Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-10 21:10 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 21:15 -0700
            Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-11 05:37 -0700
        The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 21:12 -0700
  Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 07:32 +0200
  Re: The cones of Gauss "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 22:36 -0700
  Re: The cones of Gauss "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 22:53 -0700
    Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-10 23:28 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 08:40 +0200
        Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 00:38 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 07:00 +0200
            Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 22:13 -0700
              Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 08:19 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-12 00:17 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-12 00:32 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 11:33 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-12 03:13 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 13:32 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-12 05:20 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:40 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-12 05:59 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 16:09 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 21:12 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 21:32 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-08-12 13:53 -0600
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 22:15 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 22:30 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 13:14 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 22:16 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 22:36 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 13:51 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:01 -0700
  Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 08:01 +0200
  Re: The cones of Gauss bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 10:55 +0200
  Re: The cones of Gauss Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 09:41 -0500
    Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 18:46 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 07:16 -0500
  Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-12 06:16 +0200
    Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 22:37 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-12 22:54 +0200
      Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-13 07:11 +0200
        Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-13 05:38 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-14 06:55 +0200
            Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-14 06:23 -0700
              Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-14 07:41 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-16 22:43 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-17 10:01 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-18 07:37 +0200
    Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 07:54 -0700
  Re: The cones of Gauss Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-18 17:35 +1000
    Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-18 08:35 -0700
    Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 17:52 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-18 18:35 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-18 20:37 -0500
        Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 18:52 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 19:29 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:34 -0500
        Re: The cones of Gauss Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-19 12:26 +1000
      Re: The cones of Gauss Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:31 -0500

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