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Re: The cones of Gauss

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: The cones of Gauss
Date 2016-08-18 07:37 +0200
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Am 17.08.2016 19:01, schrieb David (Time Lord) Fuller:

> But my own approach uses a different group and that is the rotation
> group SO3.
>
> I assume, that spacetime is real and is composed from pointlike
> elements, which behave like complex four-vectors (or bi-quaternions).
>
> These points have features, which are like a vector attached to that
> point. The points interact trough multiplicative connection and that
> could be understood as if these elements would twist each other in a
> specific way.
>
> This makes these pointers (amplitudes) build timelike stable patterns.
> And such patterns are, what we call 'matter'.
>
> TH
>
> We, our eyes, perceive space as an orthogonal three dimensional construct.
> We See the construct of space orthogonally as "your bi-quaternions" but when combined with time, it's shape more closely resembles Apollonian Gasket.
>

Well, possibly.

But you try to model large scale relations, while I try to model the 
world inside->outside.

I do not attempt to find such overall patterns, like Apollonian Gasket, 
but the 'mechanics' on low levels.

I assume, that nature uses actually only very few simple reactions on a 
fundamental level and these reappear in a variety of forms and we give 
different names to the various aspects.

The idea is also a fractal structure, like Apollonian Gasket, but seen 
from the perspective of a point and from there outwards.

There may possibly emerge such patterns (like Apollonian Gasket), but 
the forms of such patterns are not inside the scope of my paper.

I assume a relatively simple connection of pointlike elements of 
spacetime, which is similar to how quaternions are multiplied.

This could be interpreted as a anti-symmetric rotation.

These rotations build patterns and along the timeline a subset is 
stable. The stable patterns are called 'matter', while the unstable are 
called 'radiation'. The axis of stability is called 'time'.

This axis of time is 'relative', since it belongs to matter and the 
direction, into where such structures move in spacetime, since only in 
that direction they are stable.

Other directions are possible and then other patterns are stable. This 
is a little counter-intuitive, but for a different axis of time are also 
other material objects visible in a different space.

So the universe is actually 'relative', too, and what we regard as 
everything is just a subset of a vastly larger system.


TH

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The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-10 19:49 -0700
  The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 20:25 -0700
    The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 20:30 -0700
      The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 20:51 -0700
        Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-10 21:10 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 21:15 -0700
            Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-11 05:37 -0700
        The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-10 21:12 -0700
  Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 07:32 +0200
  Re: The cones of Gauss "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 22:36 -0700
  Re: The cones of Gauss "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-10 22:53 -0700
    Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-10 23:28 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 08:40 +0200
        Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 00:38 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 07:00 +0200
            Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 22:13 -0700
              Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 08:19 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-12 00:17 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-12 00:32 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 11:33 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-12 03:13 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 13:32 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-12 05:20 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:40 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-12 05:59 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 16:09 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 21:12 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 21:32 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Virgil <VIRGIL@VIRGIL.com> - 2016-08-12 13:53 -0600
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 22:15 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 22:30 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 13:14 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 22:16 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-08-12 22:36 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 13:51 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 14:01 -0700
  Re: The cones of Gauss Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 08:01 +0200
  Re: The cones of Gauss bartekltg <bartekltg@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 10:55 +0200
  Re: The cones of Gauss Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-11 09:41 -0500
    Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 18:46 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-12 07:16 -0500
  Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-12 06:16 +0200
    Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-11 22:37 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-12 22:54 +0200
      Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-13 07:11 +0200
        Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-13 05:38 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-14 06:55 +0200
            Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-14 06:23 -0700
              Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-14 07:41 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-16 22:43 +0200
                Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-17 10:01 -0700
                Re: The cones of Gauss Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-08-18 07:37 +0200
    Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-12 07:54 -0700
  Re: The cones of Gauss Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-18 17:35 +1000
    Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-18 08:35 -0700
    Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 17:52 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss "David (Time Lord) Fuller" <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-18 18:35 -0700
      Re: The cones of Gauss Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-18 20:37 -0500
        Re: The cones of Gauss Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-18 18:52 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-08-18 19:29 -0700
          Re: The cones of Gauss Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:34 -0500
        Re: The cones of Gauss Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-19 12:26 +1000
      Re: The cones of Gauss Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 07:31 -0500

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