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Re: Another ssh quirk...

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On 2026-10-06 06:07, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-10-06 01:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I enjoy writing about these weird quirks that I find in the ssh tools
>>>> (including rsync).  I find it amusing that ssh (and friends) - a tool we
>>>> all use daily and rely on heavily - is still stuck, design-wise, in the
>>>> 1980s.
>>>
>>> I just double-down on the 1980s mindset and use Telnet instead of
>>> SSH for talking to things like Raspberry Pis which are on my own
>>> LAN where nobody should be able to listen/connect anyway, unless
>>> they can just walk over and steal its SD card anyway. Makes
>>> everything much simpler, once you've installed the Telnet server.
>>
>> telnet does not send files, AFAIK.
> 
> No more than SSH does, on its own. 

cer@Laicolasse:~> wrpm ssh
openssh-clients-10.0p2-160000.7.1.x86_64
cer@Laicolasse:~> wrpm scp
openssh-clients-10.0p2-160000.7.1.x86_64
cer@Laicolasse:~>

scp is part of the ssh package.

> But if you want an equivalent
> set of "and friends" that don't over-complicate things with
> unnecessary security, look through the programs in GNU Inetutils.
> Plus Rsync isn't just an "ssh tool" at all, as the OP suggested - I
> frequently use the Rsync protocol which is unencrypted, and if you
> use Rsh instead of Telnet that can work with Rsync unencrypted too.
> I also use FTP a lot.
> 


-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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Another ssh quirk... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-05 12:35 +0000
  Re: Another ssh quirk... Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-10-05 15:26 +0200
    Re: Another ssh quirk... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-05 13:41 +0000
      Re: Another ssh quirk... John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-10-05 19:09 +0200
  Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:40 +0200
    Re: Another ssh quirk... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-05 13:45 +0000
  Re: Another ssh quirk... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:31 +0100
    Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:46 +0200
  Re: Another ssh quirk... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-10-06 09:21 +1000
    Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 01:55 +0200
      Re: Another ssh quirk... Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:07 +1000
        Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:17 +0200
          Re: Another ssh quirk... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-10-07 07:55 +1000
            Re: Another ssh quirk... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 00:41 -0400
              Re: Another ssh quirk... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 08:47 +0100
                Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:02 +0200
                Re: Another ssh quirk... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 21:32 -0400
                Re: Another ssh quirk... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:08 +0000
                Re: Another ssh quirk... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-07 15:33 +0000
      Re: Another ssh quirk... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:51 +0100
    Re: Another ssh quirk... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:51 +0100
      Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:20 +0200
      Re: Another ssh quirk... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-10-07 08:09 +1000
  Re: Another ssh quirk... Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-06 09:27 +0100
    Re: Another ssh quirk... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:08 +0100
      Re: Another ssh quirk... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-06 23:53 -0400
    Re: Another ssh quirk... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-06 11:09 +0000
  Re: Another ssh quirk... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:08 +0100

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