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Re: Another ssh quirk...

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Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-10-06 06:07, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2026-10-06 01:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>>>>> Yes, I enjoy writing about these weird quirks that I find in the ssh tools
>>>>> (including rsync).  I find it amusing that ssh (and friends) - a tool we
>>>>> all use daily and rely on heavily - is still stuck, design-wise, in the
>>>>> 1980s.
>>>>
>>>> I just double-down on the 1980s mindset and use Telnet instead of
>>>> SSH for talking to things like Raspberry Pis which are on my own
>>>> LAN where nobody should be able to listen/connect anyway, unless
>>>> they can just walk over and steal its SD card anyway. Makes
>>>> everything much simpler, once you've installed the Telnet server.
>>>
>>> telnet does not send files, AFAIK.
>> 
>> No more than SSH does, on its own. 
> 
> cer@Laicolasse:~> wrpm ssh
> openssh-clients-10.0p2-160000.7.1.x86_64
> cer@Laicolasse:~> wrpm scp
> openssh-clients-10.0p2-160000.7.1.x86_64
> cer@Laicolasse:~>
> 
> scp is part of the ssh package.

It's true that the OpenSSH project makes both, but it's not the
same program and actually uses the SFTP protocol these days. The
Telnet and FTP clients I use are both part of the GNU Inetutils
project and sometimes packaged together, so by your logic Telnet
is in the same position: it doesn't send files but it's sometimes
supplied alongside software that does.

Anyway the only way the OP suggested they wanted to move files
was with Rsync, which technically doesn't need anything else to
do that anyway because the client can act as an Rsync protocol
server itself. If they want other ways as well, then no a Telnet
itself isn't one of them, but plenty of options exist.

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Another ssh quirk... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-05 12:35 +0000
  Re: Another ssh quirk... Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-10-05 15:26 +0200
    Re: Another ssh quirk... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-05 13:41 +0000
      Re: Another ssh quirk... John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-10-05 19:09 +0200
  Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:40 +0200
    Re: Another ssh quirk... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-05 13:45 +0000
  Re: Another ssh quirk... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:31 +0100
    Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:46 +0200
  Re: Another ssh quirk... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-10-06 09:21 +1000
    Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 01:55 +0200
      Re: Another ssh quirk... Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:07 +1000
        Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:17 +0200
          Re: Another ssh quirk... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-10-07 07:55 +1000
            Re: Another ssh quirk... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 00:41 -0400
              Re: Another ssh quirk... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 08:47 +0100
                Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:02 +0200
                Re: Another ssh quirk... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 21:32 -0400
                Re: Another ssh quirk... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:08 +0000
                Re: Another ssh quirk... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-07 15:33 +0000
      Re: Another ssh quirk... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:51 +0100
    Re: Another ssh quirk... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:51 +0100
      Re: Another ssh quirk... "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:20 +0200
      Re: Another ssh quirk... not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-10-07 08:09 +1000
  Re: Another ssh quirk... Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-06 09:27 +0100
    Re: Another ssh quirk... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:08 +0100
      Re: Another ssh quirk... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-06 23:53 -0400
    Re: Another ssh quirk... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-06 11:09 +0000
  Re: Another ssh quirk... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:08 +0100

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