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Subject: Re: Another ssh quirk...
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On 2026-10-06 06:07, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-10-06 01:21, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes, I enjoy writing about these weird quirks that I find in the ssh tools
>>>> (including rsync).  I find it amusing that ssh (and friends) - a tool we
>>>> all use daily and rely on heavily - is still stuck, design-wise, in the
>>>> 1980s.
>>>
>>> I just double-down on the 1980s mindset and use Telnet instead of
>>> SSH for talking to things like Raspberry Pis which are on my own
>>> LAN where nobody should be able to listen/connect anyway, unless
>>> they can just walk over and steal its SD card anyway. Makes
>>> everything much simpler, once you've installed the Telnet server.
>>
>> telnet does not send files, AFAIK.
> 
> No more than SSH does, on its own. 

cer@Laicolasse:~> wrpm ssh
openssh-clients-10.0p2-160000.7.1.x86_64
cer@Laicolasse:~> wrpm scp
openssh-clients-10.0p2-160000.7.1.x86_64
cer@Laicolasse:~>

scp is part of the ssh package.

> But if you want an equivalent
> set of "and friends" that don't over-complicate things with
> unnecessary security, look through the programs in GNU Inetutils.
> Plus Rsync isn't just an "ssh tool" at all, as the OP suggested - I
> frequently use the Rsync protocol which is unencrypted, and if you
> use Rsh instead of Telnet that can work with Rsync unencrypted too.
> I also use FTP a lot.
> 


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Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.