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Re: Arch Linux

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Arch Linux
Date 2026-08-22 20:27 +0000
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2026 07:40:42 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> Linux Mint 23 is supposed to come out in December. It will be based on
> Ubuntu 26.04. It looks like there will no longer be small number (point)
> upgrades, they'll just update the libraries and applications without
> changing to 23.0 through 23.3, as they've done in the past. 

26.04 Ubuntu is LTS. I've upgraded through several Ubuntu versions and it 
always required some intervention. PostgreSQL in particular was a problem. 
I'm not planning to go past 26.04.

> As for Arch, "pacman -Syu" seems kind clunky. I didn't run Suse long
> enough to remember if zypper works like Debian or Fedora, but you're
> right about "apt update," it seems kind of odd to have to run "apt
> upgrade" separately -- although I think you can write a small shell
> script to do it all at once "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade -y". (I
> guess instead of a shell script you can make an "alias" to do the same
> thing, which I've never done.) I don't have a shell script for updates
> either. I'm used to the way it is. I hardly ever run "apt list
> --upgradable" I guess it wouldn't be a bad idea to do that.

'sudo zypper update' works like 'sudo dnf update', showing a list of what 
will be upgraded and asking for a yes or no. Zypper is sort of a work in 
progress and prints out 'Backend: classic_rpmtrans' 

SUSE is rpm based and I think rpm is lurking under dnf and zypper. I think 
you can get dnf working on Leap. At one time Red Hat had 'yum' and they 
changed it to 'dnf' when they went to Python 3. iirc SLES also used yum 
and aliased it to dnf.

I doubt if an alias would work in bash. Their idea of aliases is simple 
minded. I originally used tcsh and had to change some of my aliases to 
functions in bash. For example:

function get_phase1() {
	svn co 'file:///CADSRC2/repos/cad/branches/acphase1/'${1}
}




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        Re: Arch Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 23:01 +0000
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                Re: Arch Linux RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 06:19 +0000
                Re: Arch Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 07:06 +0000
                Re: Arch Linux Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-08-19 09:05 +0000
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            Re: Arch Linux RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-08-19 06:13 +0000
          Re: Arch Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-18 07:22 -0400
            Re: Arch Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 16:04 +0000
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            Re: Arch Linux RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2026-08-22 08:10 +0000
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