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| From | "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.space.policy, sci.physics, sci.astro, rec.arts.sf.science |
| Subject | Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin |
| Date | 2016-04-05 21:49 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ne1poe$5pr$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <MPG.30beb884bcf464f8989913@news.eternal-september.org> <n3upd4$hgo$2@dont-email.me> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
Blue Origin once again relaunched the same copy of New Shepard: Why Blue Origin’s latest launch is a huge deal for cheap space access. Blue already proved it could land. Now it's showing it can rinse and repeat. by Eric Berger - Apr 2, 2016 3:36pm EDT [quote]After the January flight, Blue Origin's founder Jeff Bezos told Ars that refurbishing the propulsion module after that first flight cost “in the small tens of thousands of dollars.” His technicians never even removed the engine from the vehicle. “We inspected it and said, 'Let's go.' It was designed to be reusable from the start.”[/quote] http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/04/why-blue-origins-latest-launch-is-a-huge-deal-for-cheap-space-access/ Blue Origin has proven relanding is not particularly hard IF you have hovering ability. On the other hand, "suicide-burn" is the appropriate description for SpaceX's Falcon 9 landing technique, not the "hover-slam" term SpaceX has been using. Since the F9 can not hover, it is inappropriate to include the word "hover" in the landing description. A more appropriate name, aside from suicide-burn, would be "land-or-slam", since without hovering ability you only get one chance at it. You stick the landing on the first try or you crash and burn. SpaceX needs to stop trying to reinvent the wheel, and investigate means of giving the F9 hovering capability. Bob Clark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, nanotechnology can now fulfill its potential to revolutionize 21st-century technology, from the space elevator, to private, orbital launchers, to 'flying cars'. This crowdfunding campaign is to prove it: Nanotech: from air to space. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/nanotech-from-air-to-space/x/13319568/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Robert Clark" wrote in message news:n3upd4$hgo$2@dont-email.me... Kudos to Blue Origin. This is a MAJOR milestone towards reusable rockets. The key capability that allowed the New Shepard to land successfully while SpaceX failed is hovering ability. SpaceX would already have succeeded if they had given the F9 the ability to hover: Hovering capability for the reusable Falcon 9, page 2: Merlin engines in a pressure-fed mode? http://exoscientist.blogspot.com/2015/07/hovering-capability-for-reusable-falcon.html Bob Clark ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A mission to Europa could result in the most important scientific advance in human history, dwarfing even the Apollo missions, to discover life on another world. By commercial space, launch and spacecraft costs can be slashed by a factor of 10 or more. This would be a cost that could be financed privately. And at costs this low it can even be done at a profit: Low cost Europa lander missions. http://exoscientist.blogspot.com/2015/02/low-cost-europa-lander-missions.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Jeff Findley" wrote in message news:MPG.30beb884bcf464f8989913@news.eternal-september.org... I saw this on Twitter this morning. Blue Origin - Historic Rocket Landing - Published on Nov 24, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pillaOxGCo Yes, I know it's only suborbital, but a successful launch, separation, descent, and landing from 100 km is nothing to sneeze at. Jeff --
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Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2015-11-24 18:10 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2015-11-24 19:38 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-11-24 20:15 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Alain Fournier <alain245@videotron.ca> - 2015-11-24 21:01 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin David Spain <nospam@127.0.0.1> - 2015-11-27 08:07 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-11-24 19:59 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2015-11-25 09:50 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Dr J R Stockton <reply1500@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-11-26 22:28 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2015-11-27 14:14 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-11-28 00:31 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin David Spain <david.l.spain@gmail.com> - 2015-11-30 11:17 -0800
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-11-30 17:24 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2015-12-01 05:53 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2015-11-27 14:10 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2015-12-05 08:41 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2015-12-05 10:14 -0500
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-05 21:49 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2016-04-06 21:30 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-07 06:07 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 12:45 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Thomas Womack <twomack@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2016-04-08 16:41 +0100
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-08 18:27 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com> - 2016-04-07 17:43 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 12:56 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-08 18:26 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Robert Clark" <rgregoryclark@gmSPAMBLOACKail.com> - 2016-04-10 08:40 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-11 06:11 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin "Greg \(Strider\) Moore" <mooregr@deletethisgreenms.com> - 2016-04-11 06:37 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-08 23:13 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-08 22:01 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 06:27 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 08:08 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 19:03 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 13:20 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-09 21:17 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 20:22 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 06:11 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 06:43 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-10 17:09 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 17:39 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-11 19:13 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 19:59 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 06:10 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:12 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 18:25 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:36 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-12 23:19 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 22:23 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 18:18 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 13:06 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-13 20:44 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:24 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 04:29 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-04-14 01:06 -0600
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:22 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 00:56 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 18:28 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 14:42 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-14 22:35 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 17:22 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 00:47 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 19:30 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-15 21:45 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 16:09 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 00:02 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 02:59 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 17:03 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 11:28 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 19:17 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 12:52 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-16 20:50 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 19:40 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-04-17 05:24 +0000
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 23:59 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 10:29 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-09 16:31 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-09 18:33 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-10 11:22 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:16 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-12 21:47 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 19:18 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-13 06:27 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 18:35 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin nj_kruse@me.com (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2016-04-13 09:48 +0200
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-13 06:28 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 18:36 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Jeff Findley <jfindley@cinci.nospam.rr.com> - 2016-04-14 22:50 -0400
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin William Mook <mokmedical@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 22:09 -0700
Re: Successful flight by Blue Origin Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 21:39 -0700
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