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Re: Newsgroup censorship

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: Newsgroup censorship
Date 2016-01-12 14:11 -0600
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On 1/12/2016 1:26 PM, benj wrote:
> On 01/12/2016 08:59 AM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/11/2016 9:01 PM, benj wrote:
>>> On 01/11/2016 09:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> On 1/11/2016 7:45 PM, benj wrote:
>>>>> It does not matter if a new idea is correct or not. Wnat matters is if
>>>>> the idea implied threatens your political agenda. That's censorship is
>>>>> so necessary. Imagine the problems if climate deniers were allowed
>>>>> free
>>>>> uncensored access to public media and scientific journals. The energy
>>>>> tax wouldn't have a chance!
>>>>
>>>> Since when does lack of censorship imply that you should get it for
>>>> FREE? This is a capitalist society, I'm sure you know. Making you pay
>>>> for access is not censorship.
>>>
>>> Clearly as usual you have no understanding of anything if life. The
>>> purpose of copyright laws is NOT to insure that authors and their
>>> descendants get rich. The purpose is to ENCOURAGE authors to create
>>> works for the betterment of human civilization. This is what "fair use"
>>> is all about. Research and edcational use are supposed to be free.
>>
>> No sir. Not in the western world. I have no idea where you ever got the
>> idea that research and education are supposed to be free. They never
>> have been.
>>
>> Wanting reality to be something other than it is, is not the same as
>> saying something is wrong.
>
> Might makes right. Got it, Boinker.

I didn't say that, Ben. Get a grip.

What I said is that your claim that research and education are supposed 
to be free in the western world is just a whacko brainfart.

What zero cost has to do with oppression and dominance is beyond me. 
Maybe you can try to splutter something about that that makes sense.

>
>>> But
>>> the pure greed of authors (and even their estates after they die... Why
>>> should copyrights extend beyond the death of the author?) has managed to
>>> change that, extending copyrights for interminable lengths and stopping
>>> fair use at every turn. It's a pitiful display of human nature at it's
>>> worst.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 10:41 -0800
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 12:55 -0600
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 11:16 -0800
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:43 -0600
        Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:04 -0500
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-11 16:29 -0600
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                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 10:30 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 05:58 -0800
      Re: Newsgroup censorship moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-12 16:14 +0000
        Re: Newsgroup censorship "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:36 -0800
  Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-11 19:27 +0000
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:21 -0600
    Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:22 -0500
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:41 -0600
        Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 17:11 -0800
          Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:55 -0600
  Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:42 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-11 22:22 +0000
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-11 16:34 -0600
        Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 14:57 -0800
          Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 20:45 -0500
            Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 20:34 -0600
              Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:01 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 07:59 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:26 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:11 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:58 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:07 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 00:22 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 08:01 -0600
      Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 14:51 -0800
        Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 00:32 +0000
          Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 18:00 -0800
            Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 02:16 +0000
              Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:12 -0800
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                Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 06:19 +0000
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 23:10 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 18:35 +0000
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 11:05 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 03:39 +0000
                Re: Newsgroup censorship "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 23:06 -0800
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                Re: Newsgroup censorship Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-12 14:33 -0600
              Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:17 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 03:41 +0000
        Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 17:07 -0800
          Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:47 -0600
            Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 21:53 -0500
              Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 07:57 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:21 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:05 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 12:12 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:32 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 18:04 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:09 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 00:24 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 08:03 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:55 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:04 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 00:21 -0500
            Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 20:16 -0800
              Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:33 -0600
            Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 21:02 -0800
              Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:37 -0600
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                Re: Newsgroup censorship HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 16:17 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:43 -0600
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                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:19 -0600
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            Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 20:37 -0600
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    Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 20:56 -0800
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-12 22:21 +1100
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:34 -0600
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  Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 11:26 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:09 -0600
      Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 12:27 -0800
        Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:38 -0600
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