Re: Newsgroup censorship

From	Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: Newsgroup censorship
Date	2016-01-12 07:59 -0600
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On 1/11/2016 9:01 PM, benj wrote:
> On 01/11/2016 09:34 PM, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> On 1/11/2016 7:45 PM, benj wrote:
>>> It does not matter if a new idea is correct or not. Wnat matters is if
>>> the idea implied threatens your political agenda. That's censorship is
>>> so necessary. Imagine the problems if climate deniers were allowed free
>>> uncensored access to public media and scientific journals. The energy
>>> tax wouldn't have a chance!
>>
>> Since when does lack of censorship imply that you should get it for
>> FREE? This is a capitalist society, I'm sure you know. Making you pay
>> for access is not censorship.
>
> Clearly as usual you have no understanding of anything if life. The
> purpose of copyright laws is NOT to insure that authors and their
> descendants get rich. The purpose is to ENCOURAGE authors to create
> works for the betterment of human civilization. This is what "fair use"
> is all about. Research and edcational use are supposed to be free.

No sir. Not in the western world. I have no idea where you ever got the 
idea that research and education are supposed to be free. They never 
have been.

Wanting reality to be something other than it is, is not the same as 
saying something is wrong.

> But
> the pure greed of authors (and even their estates after they die... Why
> should copyrights extend beyond the death of the author?) has managed to
> change that, extending copyrights for interminable lengths and stopping
> fair use at every turn. It's a pitiful display of human nature at it's
> worst.
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

Thread

Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 10:41 -0800
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 12:55 -0600
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 11:16 -0800
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:43 -0600
        Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:04 -0500
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-11 16:29 -0600
      Re: Newsgroup censorship "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:54 -0800
        Re: Newsgroup censorship HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 02:48 -0800
          Re: Newsgroup censorship "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 06:06 -0800
            Re: Newsgroup censorship HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 07:12 -0800
              Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:16 -0500
              Re: Newsgroup censorship "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 23:27 -0800
              Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 10:20 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 10:25 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 10:30 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 05:58 -0800
      Re: Newsgroup censorship moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-12 16:14 +0000
        Re: Newsgroup censorship "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:36 -0800
  Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-11 19:27 +0000
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:21 -0600
    Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:22 -0500
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:41 -0600
        Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 17:11 -0800
          Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:55 -0600
  Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 13:42 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-11 22:22 +0000
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-11 16:34 -0600
        Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 14:57 -0800
          Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 20:45 -0500
            Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 20:34 -0600
              Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:01 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 07:59 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:26 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:11 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:58 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:07 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 00:22 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 08:01 -0600
      Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 14:51 -0800
        Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 00:32 +0000
          Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 18:00 -0800
            Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 02:16 +0000
              Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:12 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:34 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 06:19 +0000
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 23:10 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 18:35 +0000
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 11:05 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 03:39 +0000
                Re: Newsgroup censorship "Ross A. Finlayson" <ross.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 23:06 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 23:28 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2016-01-12 14:33 -0600
              Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:17 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2016-01-12 03:41 +0000
        Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 17:07 -0800
          Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 19:47 -0600
            Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 21:53 -0500
              Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 07:57 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:21 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:05 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 12:12 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:32 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 18:04 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:09 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 00:24 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 08:03 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:55 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 17:04 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 00:21 -0500
            Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 20:16 -0800
              Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:33 -0600
            Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 21:02 -0800
              Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:37 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-12 16:04 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 16:17 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:43 -0600
                Re: Newsgroup censorship "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:48 -0800
                Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 17:51 -0500
                Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 14:19 -0600
          Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 18:13 -0800
            Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 20:37 -0600
              Re: Newsgroup censorship pnalsing@gmail.com - 2016-01-11 19:27 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:33 -0500
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 15:54 -0600
    Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 17:35 -0500
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-12 13:40 +1100
    Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-11 22:08 -0500
    Re: Newsgroup censorship R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> - 2016-01-12 03:13 +0000
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 20:56 -0800
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-01-12 22:21 +1100
      Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:34 -0600
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-01-11 22:00 -0800
  Re: Newsgroup censorship jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-12 13:40 +0000
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Catherine Jefferson <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> - 2016-01-12 08:42 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 11:04 -0600
    Re: Newsgroup censorship HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 09:13 -0800
  Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 11:26 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:09 -0600
      Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 12:27 -0800
        Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 14:38 -0600
          Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 12:54 -0800
        Re: Newsgroup censorship benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 18:00 -0500
  Re: Newsgroup censorship Rock Brentwood <federation2005@netzero.com> - 2016-01-12 17:28 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Solving Tornadoes <solvingtornadoes@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 20:23 -0800
      Re: Newsgroup censorship "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 07:54 -0800
  Re: Newsgroup censorship James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:58 -0800
    Re: Newsgroup censorship Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 12:13 -0600
      Re: Newsgroup censorship HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 10:16 -0800

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