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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

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On 2015-08-18 07:12 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <b0ab36ab-3f79-4496-b325-9a9ae530f140@googlegroups.com>,
>   nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 10:49:44 AM UTC-7, niunian wrote:
>>> On 2015-08-17 11:56 PM, nature bats last wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 8:11:51 PM UTC-7, niunian wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-08-16 11:55 PM, John Ritson wrote:
>>>>>> In article <mqpvas$r80$1@dont-email.me>, niunian <niunian@ymail.com>
>>>>>> writes
>>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:33 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <mqke7b$vf2$10@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> William December Starr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Living itself is a purpose. And it is a great purpose. It is to
>>>>>>>>>>> worship the God of living.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well I guess if you're going to anthropomorphize -- excuse me,
>>>>>>>>>> deus-morphize -- _any_ concept, then yes, any concept is a God of
>>>>>>>>>> something.  That gets us rather deep into "so what?" territory
>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, if we can agree on the fact of life which shows everybody
>>>>>>>>> including the atheists has a god of their own on a personal level,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can't.  You use the words 'god' and 'God' in ways that are so
>>>>>>>> non-standard that I doubt you make sense to anyone but yourself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That only because you have never thought of God/god on a personal
>>>>>>> level.
>>>>>>> God is not out there in the sky. God is within you who is the center
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> your life. You actually live your life for God even when you call
>>>>>>> yourself an atheist.
>>>>>> So (according to you) everybody lives their life for God.
>>>>>>> When you don't live your life for the God within
>>>>>>> you, you always suffer in life.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ..> > But since (according to you) everybody lives their life for God,
>>>> nobody
>>>> ..> > 'always suffers'.
>>>> ..> > You are just talking rubbish.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ..> No. If we can always live our lives for God, we would never suffer.
>>>>
>>
>>
>> .> > Try that one out on someone with reflex sympathetic dystrophy
>> .> > or paroxysmal extreme pain disorder or complex regional pain syndrome.
>>
>> .> For people who have to live a difficult life, when they live their life
>> .> for God, they may still have to endure the physical pain in their body,
>> .> but they don't have to endure any mental suffering in their mind.
>
> There are few things that cause "suffering in their mind" more than
> perpetual severe pain. Why did you say something so incredibly stupid?

Not really, the suffering in people's mind can only exist when there is 
an image of self in their mind which dominates their life. When a person 
stops living for that empty image and starts living for the spirit of 
God within him/her, suffering in their mind will be taken away by God. 
There will be no self pity or the feeling of personal failure and injury 
anymore. There will only be a simple acceptance of life and the desire 
to make the best of it whenever and however possible.

>
>
>> .> There
>> .> isn't any to begin with. In fact, they may be given the extra strength
>> .> to help them to endure the extra physical pain so that they can overcome
>> .> their difficulty. To them, failure will never discourage them, each time
>> .> they fail, it will only make them coming back to start a more fierce
>> .> struggle. It's all because they live their lives for God, they have
>> ,> nothing to worry about.
>>
>> Are you speaking from personal experience with extreme
>> and omnipresent pain?
>

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-18 11:55 +0100
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:38 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 08:56 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:49 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:02 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-17 16:12 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 14:11 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 08:34 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:04 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:13 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:11 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 12:26 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 07:08 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 09:31 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-21 09:59 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 21:05 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-21 18:44 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-22 08:50 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-22 07:03 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:37 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-19 10:07 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:21 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-19 16:57 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-20 14:51 +0100
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 14:14 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 08:25 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:16 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:10 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:24 +0800

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