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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.

From	niunian <niunian@ymail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.atheism, rec.arts.sf.written, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science.
Date	2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<mqrjaf$1pm$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 2015-08-16 11:55 PM, John Ritson wrote:
> In article <mqpvas$r80$1@dont-email.me>, niunian <niunian@ymail.com>
> writes
>> On 2015-08-16 01:33 PM, William December Starr wrote:
>>> In article <mqke7b$vf2$10@dont-email.me>,
>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>
>>>> William December Starr wrote:
>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Living itself is a purpose. And it is a great purpose. It is to
>>>>>> worship the God of living.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I guess if you're going to anthropomorphize -- excuse me,
>>>>> deus-morphize -- _any_ concept, then yes, any concept is a God of
>>>>> something.  That gets us rather deep into "so what?" territory though.
>>>>
>>>> Well, if we can agree on the fact of life which shows everybody
>>>> including the atheists has a god of their own on a personal level,
>>>
>>> We can't.  You use the words 'god' and 'God' in ways that are so
>>> non-standard that I doubt you make sense to anyone but yourself.
>>
>> That only because you have never thought of God/god on a personal level.
>> God is not out there in the sky. God is within you who is the center of
>> your life. You actually live your life for God even when you call
>> yourself an atheist.
> So (according to you) everybody lives their life for God.
>> When you don't live your life for the God within
>> you, you always suffer in life.

> But since (according to you) everybody lives their life for God, nobody
> 'always suffers'.
> You are just talking rubbish.

No. If we can always live our lives for God, we would never suffer. The 
reason we do suffer in life, is because we sometimes stop living our 
lives for God. God is the source of our spiritual energy like happiness, 
peace, love, satisfaction, etc. When we don't live our lives for God, we 
wouldn't get any of those good things from God. When life is without 
happiness, peace, love, and satisfaction, life becomes suffering.

>> There is no exception for everybody.
>> It's universal.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> My claim is based on the assumption that every life is precious
>>>> and has a purpose. It's rather straight forward common sense.
>>>
>>> "Common sense" here means "I sure looks like X to *me*, therefore it
>>> must look that way to everybody."  It proves nothing.
>>
>> I fail to see there is anything difficult to understand. Perhaps you
>> need to look within yourself and your life in order to understand what
>> I'm talking about.
>>
>>>
>>> -- wds
>>>
>>
>

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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
  Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
    Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
      Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-18 11:55 +0100
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:38 -0400
        Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 08:56 -0700
          Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:49 +0800
            Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:02 -0700
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-17 16:12 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 14:11 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 08:34 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:04 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:13 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:11 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 12:26 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 07:08 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 09:31 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-21 09:59 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 21:05 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-21 18:44 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-22 08:50 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-22 07:03 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:37 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-19 10:07 +0100
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:21 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-19 16:57 -0400
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-20 14:51 +0100
              Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 14:14 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 08:25 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:16 +0800
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:10 -0700
                Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:24 +0800

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