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Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing?

From not.socialnetwork@gmail.com
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux.slackware, alt.os.linux.debian
Subject Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing?
Followup-To comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux.slackware, alt.os.linux.debian
Date 2014-10-23 12:04 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <m2aqs8$ddc$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References <m2a5ur$e5b$1@dont-email.me>

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In article <m2a5ur$e5b$1@dont-email.me>, cat.satonmat@gmail.com wrote: 

> The worst kind of bugs are those that pretend to self-fix;
> like some kind of hidden disease, to appear later and kill you.
> --
> Only after an unknown sequence of applications [and sleep mode]
> did my prefered distribution slip into a fuzzy-display-mode, for certain
> programs, eg. xpdf, certain-text-of <mozilla>...
> 
> Frustrating attempts to trace the bug of the *xorg* system, caused me
> to switch to an earlier/forked version of the distribution; with the
> needed wastefull <re-setting all your preferences>. 
> It's worst than moving house!!
> 
> After settling in to the better system, I wanted to check something on
> the previous bad-display-system.  For booting I selected "vga=ask"
> and then selected one [that seemed familiar] from the menu of 
> vga/VESA.
> 
> Now I've been using it for 12 hours and the damned-thing won't
> go-wrong. So I fear that I MAY have chosen a *magic* vga/VESA
> selection, which avoids the original problem.
> 
> Of course I'd rather *understand* why/what's happening, but
> if that's not possible. I need to know which of a zillion vga/VESA
> choices displays without the complex/unsolved problem.
> 
> ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf*
>   shows that none of these was updated by the latest reboot.
>   
> Any help on this frustrating problem is much appreciated.
> 
> == TIA
> 
> PS. how do you easily set the RTC back by 7 minutes, 
> without decoding the absurd `man'?
> ===
OK, I'm wrong again. The disease is rampant again!
But it's interesting for anyone who knows a bit about 
color-mixing:

There's a color-circle, which shows the RGB color-spectrum.
I think the intensity of each "beam" [thinking of a 3 beam CRT]
goes from zero in the center to maximum at the perimeter.

Now, with the bad condition again: the inner 40% of the circle
is white, which is wrong. Also the 3 <mix colors> between the
RBG primary colors have bigger areas. 

My interpretation is that all 3 of R,B,G are leaking:
where R,B,G mix they produce white;
where any 2 adjacent mix [due to 'leaking'] they produce
the <extra large mixing area> decribed above.

This problem could be simulated on a 3-beam CRT display,
if eg. the beams where too-wide, and eg. the Red beam
overflowed to adjacent Green & Blue pixels.

But I don't see how such an explanation can apply to a HDMI
LED display, which doesn't work like a batsman trying to hit a
flying ball. AFAIK the HDMI is digital and not analogue.

WDYS?

But no, I'm wrong. Apart from the colour-circle, there's a 
pie-segment which is coloured from dark at the point,
[corresponding to the circle-middle] to white at the perimeter.

If the circle's intensity decreased towards the middle.
and reached zero; that would correspond to black.
As the Pie-sector suggests.

All programs that write in black are OK, but those that use 
grey are near invisisble.


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what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-23 06:07 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-23 08:22 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-23 12:04 +0000
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2014-10-23 13:25 +0000
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-24 06:14 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2014-10-23 21:45 -0400
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-24 06:56 +0000
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2014-10-26 03:07 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Chester A. Arthur" <deadprez@whitehouse.com> - 2014-10-23 22:18 -0500
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-23 22:09 -0800
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-24 07:07 +0000
        Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 00:02 -0800
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 12:46 +0000
        Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 05:39 -0800
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 09:31 -0500
            Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 08:37 -0800
              Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 12:09 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 09:30 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 12:44 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 10:15 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:38 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 11:09 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-24 21:31 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 12:53 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2014-10-25 13:56 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 05:12 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 09:24 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-26 00:15 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 14:17 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 12:55 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 16:23 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-24 22:33 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:28 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 10:43 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 22:52 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 18:57 +0000
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 17:04 +0000
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 17:09 +0000
            Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2014-10-24 21:02 +0000
              Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 16:30 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Martin <m@abc.invalid> - 2014-10-25 14:40 +0200
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 04:50 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 09:17 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 13:26 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 16:49 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Martin <m@abc.invalid> - 2014-10-25 19:54 +0200

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