Re: what VESA/vga AM I useing?

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux.slackware, alt.os.linux.debian
Subject	Re: what VESA/vga AM I useing?
Date	2014-10-24 12:46 +0000
Organization	My Linux Box
Message-ID	<m2dhmn$rhv$2@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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In comp.os.linux.misc Floyd L. Davidson <floyd@apaflo.com> wrote:
> "Chester A. Arthur" <deadprez@whitehouse.com> wrote:
> >One should always keep the hwclock in UTC. System time will change
> >with the rules for your local time zone, and computers move,
> >especially laptops. Most linuxes these days follow these rules,
> >except the gentoo family. Slackware gives you an explicit choice at
> >install--choose UTC. The BSDs I have tried give no choice, they set
> >the hwclock to localtime, that's dumb.

> Most people will be *far* better served setting the hwclock to local
> time than to UTC.

How so?  Unless they need to dual-boot windows, setting the hardware
clock to UTC will allow their computer to automatically shift back and
forth due to the idiot politicians desire to play with the clocks
(i.e., daylight savings time).

> >Localtime is crazy, the rules change and there are so many
> >strangenesses. (The world ends at midnite-12:30 Newfie time). There
> >is software to deal with that, and it works well if it isn't
> >bypassed by OSes that make poor choices.

> You're making life much more difficult than it need be.

And setting the hardware clock to UTC lets the system libs take care
of that crazyness, so that one's computer time automatically moves
forward at 2am in the spring, and automatically falls back at 2am in
the fall, with no effort on the users part.

That seems the very definition of "much easier" rather than more
difficult.  Let the computer do the work, both of remembering when, and
of how much to shift.

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what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-23 06:07 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-23 08:22 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-23 12:04 +0000
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2014-10-23 13:25 +0000
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-24 06:14 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2014-10-23 21:45 -0400
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-24 06:56 +0000
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2014-10-26 03:07 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Chester A. Arthur" <deadprez@whitehouse.com> - 2014-10-23 22:18 -0500
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-23 22:09 -0800
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-24 07:07 +0000
        Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 00:02 -0800
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 12:46 +0000
        Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 05:39 -0800
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 09:31 -0500
            Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 08:37 -0800
              Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 12:09 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 09:30 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 12:44 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 10:15 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:38 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 11:09 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-24 21:31 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 12:53 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2014-10-25 13:56 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 05:12 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 09:24 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-26 00:15 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 14:17 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 12:55 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 16:23 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-24 22:33 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:28 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 10:43 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 22:52 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 18:57 +0000
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 17:04 +0000
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 17:09 +0000
            Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2014-10-24 21:02 +0000
              Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 16:30 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Martin <m@abc.invalid> - 2014-10-25 14:40 +0200
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 04:50 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 09:17 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 13:26 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 16:49 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Martin <m@abc.invalid> - 2014-10-25 19:54 +0200

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