Re: what VESA/vga AM I useing?

Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux.slackware, alt.os.linux.debian
Subject	Re: what VESA/vga AM I useing?
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From	floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson)
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Date	2014-10-24 10:43 -0800
Message-ID	<874mut1f6h.fld@barrow.com> (permalink)

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Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Floyd L. Davidson <floyd@apaflo.com> wrote:
>> John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> >Floyd L. Davidson writes:
>> >> The only way I know when the switch takes place is when I notice my
>> >> computer is an hour different than my wall clock.
>> >
>> >I wrote:
>> >> Same here with the BIOS clock set to UTC.  So what is the advantage of
>> >> setting it to local time and having to change it manually twice a year?
>> >
>> >Floyd L. Davidson writes:
>> >> So why would anyone manually change it?
>> >
>> >If you don't it will only be on local time part of the year.
>
>> I've had multiple systems set to local time since the
>> early 90's.  They all switch automatically.
>
>> A cron job sets the time with ntpdate.
>
>Ah, this might be why then.  Ntpdate might also be applying DST
>translations for you, and you see the clock shift.
>
>My statements were based upon setting HW clock and system time in UTC,
>and then the shift occurs automatically, even with no network
>connection to anything running.

Your statement was "and having to change it manually".

That just isn' the case.

>> Another cron job sets the hardware clock from the system clock.  Both
>> run once an hour.
>
>> It's all automatic.
>
>Yes, and ntpdate is likely why you are seeing auto DST shift changes.
>Without it, you would not see the time shift on the computer either.

But I do see it all work automatically.  That's what a
good systems admin sets the system up to do... ;-)

>> The big problem is my wall clock... I have to manually set it.
>
>They do make wall clocks now that sync to transmitted time signals and
>auto-set themselves.  Although depending upon where you are located
>geographically will determine if such would even work for you.

The don't work at 71 degrees north latitude.

Oh, I forgot, there is another problem...  my danged
cameras don't auto switch either.  Nor do my printers.

For the life of me I cannot understand why Nikon and
Epson both have not put an embedded Linux system into
every product they make!  Damned foolish, considering
the vast benefits.  Epson in particular has a crude
human interface that reminds of what was being done in
the 80's with 8085 and Z80 microprocessors.  It's
ridiculous, and so easy to fix.

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                         http://www.apaflo.com/
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                      floyd@apaflo.com

Thread

what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-23 06:07 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-23 08:22 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-23 12:04 +0000
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Joe Beanfish <joebeanfish@nospam.duh> - 2014-10-23 13:25 +0000
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? not.socialnetwork@gmail.com - 2014-10-24 06:14 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2014-10-23 21:45 -0400
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-24 06:56 +0000
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2014-10-26 03:07 +0000
  Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Chester A. Arthur" <deadprez@whitehouse.com> - 2014-10-23 22:18 -0500
    Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-23 22:09 -0800
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" <njsg@invalid.invalid> - 2014-10-24 07:07 +0000
        Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 00:02 -0800
      Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 12:46 +0000
        Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 05:39 -0800
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 09:31 -0500
            Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 08:37 -0800
              Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 12:09 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 09:30 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 12:44 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 10:15 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:38 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 11:09 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-24 21:31 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 12:53 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk> - 2014-10-25 13:56 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 05:12 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 09:24 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-26 00:15 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 14:17 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 12:55 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 16:23 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2014-10-24 22:33 +0100
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 18:28 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-24 10:43 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 22:52 +0000
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 18:57 +0000
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2014-10-24 17:04 +0000
          Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2014-10-24 17:09 +0000
            Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2014-10-24 21:02 +0000
              Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-24 16:30 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Martin <m@abc.invalid> - 2014-10-25 14:40 +0200
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 04:50 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 09:17 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-10-25 13:26 -0800
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-10-25 16:49 -0500
                Re: what VESA/vga *AM* I useing? Martin <m@abc.invalid> - 2014-10-25 19:54 +0200

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