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| From | Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: for your languages |
| Date | 2011-06-05 20:37 -0700 |
| Organization | None to speak of |
| Message-ID | <lny61ffx4o.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> (permalink) |
| References | (15 earlier) <4deb6932$0$8878$a729d347@news.telepac.pt> <lnr578gjj7.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> <chine.bleu-5E9E0A.13083605062011@news.eternal-september.org> <lnboycgfsv.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org> <chine.bleu-2B3C76.18571305062011@news.eternal-september.org> |
China Blue Angels <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> writes:
> In article <lnboycgfsv.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org>, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
> wrote:
>> China Blue Angels <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> writes:
>> > In article <lnr578gjj7.fsf@nuthaus.mib.org>, Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Is the macro facility provided by a macro-assembly language more
>> >> powerful than the macro facility provided by C? If not, the existence
>> >
>> > If you even have to ask this question, it means you don't know what is
>> > really
>> > going on.
>>
>> You're right, I probably don't. I haven't programmed in assembly
>> language since longer ago than I care to admit. That's why I'm asking
>> questions, but straight answers seem to be in short supply.
>
> The Cyber 205 (it's been defunct for about 20 years) assembler was META. I've
> forgotten the exact syntax, but it allowed something like
> IF [R4,EQ,R5]
> THEN
> WHILE [predicate]
> ENDWHILE
> ELSE
> ENDIF
>
> The limit of complexity of predicates depended on how clever the macro writer
> wanted to be. You could've defined a macro for
> ASSIGN R254,[R100,ADD,[R10,MPY,R11]]
>
> The [,,] was a list format; the authour converted expressions into parse trees
> which were represented as nested lists.
>
> I also wrote field extraction macros for the 170 that could expand into variously
> SX.i X.i
> or
> MX0 m
> BX.i X0*X.i
> or
> MX0 m
> AX.i X.i,s
> AX0 X0,s
> BX.i -X0*X.i
> depending on the field location and width.
>
>> In my limited experience, assemblers these days are used
>> mostly to translate the output of a compiler into machine code.
>
> Unix assemblers use m4 as their macro processor. m4 is a flexible macro
> processor. configure etc use it instantiate makefiles.
None of which, as far as I can tell, suggests that an assembler's
output isn't entirely determined by its input.
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
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Re: for your languages Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-05-31 01:27 +0000
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Re: for your languages James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-06-01 10:30 -0400
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Re: for your languages Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-06-02 21:34 +0100
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Re: for your languages Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-06-04 14:41 +0100
Re: for your languages Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-06-04 16:31 +0000
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Re: for your languages Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-06-05 15:47 +0000
Re: for your languages "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-06-05 10:16 -0700
Re: for your languages "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-06-05 10:30 -0700
Re: for your languages Heikki Kallasjoki <see@end.of.message.invalid> - 2011-06-05 17:38 +0000
Re: for your languages "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-06-05 10:49 -0700
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-04 09:50 -0700
Re: for your languages Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-06-04 13:23 -0700
Re: for your languages Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-06-05 12:32 +0100
Re: for your languages "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-06-05 07:15 -0700
Re: for your languages "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-06 18:18 +0200
Re: for your languages "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-06-06 11:40 -0700
Re: for your languages "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-07 16:57 +0200
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-07 08:36 -0700
Re: for your languages "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-07 18:19 +0200
Re: for your languages "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-06-07 18:32 +0200
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-05 12:33 -0700
Re: for your languages China Blue Angels <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 13:08 -0700
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-05 13:54 -0700
Re: for your languages China Blue Angels <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 18:57 -0700
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-05 20:37 -0700
Re: for your languages China Blue Angels <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 20:58 -0700
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-05 21:49 -0700
Re: for your languages China Blue Angels <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 22:05 -0700
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-06 09:11 -0700
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-16 13:00 -0700
Re: for your languages Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net> - 2011-06-06 02:04 -0700
Re: for your languages "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-06 10:21 +0100
Re: for your languages "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-05 22:47 +0100
Re: for your languages China Blue Angels <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-06-05 18:25 -0700
Re: for your languages Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-06 13:41 +1200
Re: for your languages "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-06 10:06 +0100
Re: for your languages Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-06-06 15:39 +0000
Re: for your languages Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-06-06 15:39 +0000
Re: for your languages Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-05-31 00:44 +0100
Re: for your languages Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-05-31 18:09 +0100
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-31 12:00 -0700
Re: for your languages Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-06-01 15:33 +0100
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-01 09:07 -0700
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-06-01 10:12 -0700
Re: for your languages BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-01 12:45 -0700
Re: for your languages "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-06-03 15:41 +0100
Re: for your languages Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2011-06-05 13:30 +0100
Re: for your languages Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-06-06 15:39 +0000
Re: for your languages "Kleuskes & Moos" <kleuske@xs4all.nl> - 2011-05-28 03:34 -0700
Re: for your languages "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2011-05-29 08:42 +0200
Re: for your languages Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2011-05-29 01:00 +0200
Re: for your languages Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-05-28 23:49 +0000
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-28 18:42 -0700
Re: for your languages Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-05-28 18:42 -0700
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