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Re: Downloding Mavericks

From Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Downloding Mavericks
Date 2014-01-20 17:24 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <lbk7n6$b69$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 2014-01-20 22:02:25 +0000, Doug Anderson said:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:
> 
>> In article <5stxcy5r6h.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
>> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> But as I wrote, adequate for testing what exactly?  For testing if
>>>>> Mavericks works on his machine, he doesn't need to do that.  For
>>>>> testing how _well_ it works, he'll get a distorted picture.
>>>> 
>>>> to see if the changes are acceptable. for some people, they are not.
>>>> speed isn't the issue, it's whether the missing features or the changed
>>>> features matter.
>>> 
>>> I see.  Maybe.  But of course many of the changes can be adjusted in
>>> preferences.  What are the "missing features" to which you refer?
>> 
>> it was more of a generic comment as to why someone would want to test
>> drive something before installing it.
>> 
>> with every release of any software, new features are added and existing
>> features may be changed or removed. sometimes those changes are good
>> and sometimes they're not.
>> 
>> being able to find out before committing to an upgrade is often very
>> helpful, especially with an operating system, where backtracking is a
>> major pain in the ass.
>> 
>> most of the time, speed isn't going to affect that evaluation.
>> 
>>>> it's also still fairly buggy, notably apple mail. that might be a show
>>>> stopper right there.
>>> 
>>> That's an interesting assertion.  I haven't noticed Apple Mail bugs
>>> myself, though the searching doesn't seem quite as snappy to me
>>> (haven't tested if I'm noticing a real difference though).
>> 
>> searching in apple mail was never particularly fast.
>> 
>>> What sort of Apple Mail bugs have you been seeing?
>> 
>> apple mail with gmail is still screwed up. they released a quick fix
>> which helped but it's still broken.
>> 
>> if someone uses gmail a lot, they will find that mavericks will not be
>> a pleasant experience unless they use a different mail app than apple
>> mail. apparently nobody at apple uses gmail.
> 
> Again, not my experience.  I'm not seeing that Apple Mail with gmail
> is "broken," but I may not be using the features of gmail (or Apple
> Mail) that are at issue.
> 
> Since for some reason you resist specifying what those features are,
> it is hard to tell.  It certainly isn't as simple as "anyone who uses
> gmail with Apple Mail will tell you it is broken," because I do, and I
> wouldn't tell anyone that.

Same here. Apple mail works fine with 2 gmail accounts, one IMAP, one 
POP, with no problems whatsoever. Multiple labels/folders, lots of 
rules.

-- 
JoeWolfDee
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator, 
but among those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh.  --WH 
Auden

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                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:45 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:44 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
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                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
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