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Re: Downloding Mavericks

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <5stxcy5r6h.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > But as I wrote, adequate for testing what exactly?  For testing if
> > > > Mavericks works on his machine, he doesn't need to do that.  For
> > > > testing how _well_ it works, he'll get a distorted picture.
> > > 
> > > to see if the changes are acceptable. for some people, they are not.
> > > speed isn't the issue, it's whether the missing features or the changed
> > > features matter.
> > 
> > I see.  Maybe.  But of course many of the changes can be adjusted in
> > preferences.  What are the "missing features" to which you refer?
> 
> it was more of a generic comment as to why someone would want to test
> drive something before installing it.
> 
> with every release of any software, new features are added and existing
> features may be changed or removed. sometimes those changes are good
> and sometimes they're not.
> 
> being able to find out before committing to an upgrade is often very
> helpful, especially with an operating system, where backtracking is a
> major pain in the ass.
> 
> most of the time, speed isn't going to affect that evaluation.
> 
> > > it's also still fairly buggy, notably apple mail. that might be a show
> > > stopper right there.
> > 
> > That's an interesting assertion.  I haven't noticed Apple Mail bugs
> > myself, though the searching doesn't seem quite as snappy to me
> > (haven't tested if I'm noticing a real difference though).
> 
> searching in apple mail was never particularly fast.
> 
> > What sort of Apple Mail bugs have you been seeing?
> 
> apple mail with gmail is still screwed up. they released a quick fix
> which helped but it's still broken.
> 
> if someone uses gmail a lot, they will find that mavericks will not be
> a pleasant experience unless they use a different mail app than apple
> mail. apparently nobody at apple uses gmail.

Again, not my experience.  I'm not seeing that Apple Mail with gmail
is "broken," but I may not be using the features of gmail (or Apple
Mail) that are at issue.

Since for some reason you resist specifying what those features are,
it is hard to tell.  It certainly isn't as simple as "anyone who uses
gmail with Apple Mail will tell you it is broken," because I do, and I
wouldn't tell anyone that.

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Downloding Mavericks David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 06:13 -0800
  Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-17 14:43 +0000
  Re: Downloding Mavericks David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 06:57 -0800
  Re: Downloding Mavericks Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-01-17 10:15 -0600
    Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 11:43 -0500
      Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 13:29 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 12:15 -0700
          Re: Downloding Mavericks super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-01-18 04:55 -0600
            Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-19 09:37 +1300
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              Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-19 13:30 +1300
        Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 14:30 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 06:05 -0800
        Re: Downloding Mavericks Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-12 11:22 +1000
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-12 10:18 -0400
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 13:55 -0400
              Re: Downloding Mavericks Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-12 14:50 -0400
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 15:13 -0400
                Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-12 20:47 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 17:11 -0400
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-12 22:25 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 01:27 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-13 08:21 +0200
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 01:26 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-13 09:44 +0200
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 21:32 +0000
      Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 11:59 -0700
        Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 14:30 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 13:31 -0700
            Re: Downloding Mavericks dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-18 08:54 +1100
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 18:39 -0500
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            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:29 -0500
    Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 13:23 -0500
      Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-19 17:19 +0000
        Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 09:07 +1300
    Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-18 09:41 +1300
      Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 18:39 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 19:02 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 17:12 -0700
          Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2014-01-18 00:14 +0000
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 20:02 -0500
            Re: Downloding Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:55 -0500
              Re: Downloding Mavericks Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-01-18 09:19 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 09:32 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:22 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:53 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:33 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-20 13:09 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:28 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:00 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:45 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:44 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 06:44 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:49 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-21 10:44 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 08:50 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 17:16 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 09:15 +1300
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 02:03 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:28 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:02 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-20 17:24 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:50 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-19 08:03 +1100
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0500
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