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Re: Downloding Mavericks

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <tsr482ati2.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > Though I'd think in that case you wouldn't have quite so much trouble
> > > > coming with examples of these bugs.
> > > 
> > > this is a very good summary of the various issues with mavericks mail:
> > > <http://tidbits.com/article/14219>
> > > 
> > > the badge count sync is not just with gmail either. it happens on
> > > non-gmail mail systems, but probably for different reasons.
> > 
> > OK, now you've mentioned exactly one Mavericks Mail bug, but it is one
> > that appears to be unrelated to Gmail.
> 
> one bug? you obviously didn't read the link.

As I said, _you_ gave an example of one bug.

You also gave a linka to one unhappy camper. This doesnt support your
contention that there is some universal Mavericks / gmail problem.

> 
> he lists a slew of problems specifically with gmail, some of which are
> rather serious.
> 
> the badge count does happen with more than just gmail, but not
> necessarily for the same reason. the bugs he lists with gmail includes
> a syncing bug, which would explain the badge count problem. other mail
> systems don't have a syncing problem, so the badge count issue there
> would likely be due to a *different* reason. 
> 
> > In the meantime, several responses from Mavericks Gmail users who
> > aren't noticing any problems, while you continue to assert that this
> > means we aren't really using it seriously.
> 
> meanwhile, 85% of respondents to a poll say otherwise. 

No, that is a poll of people who already claimed to have Mavericks /
gmail problems.. So what we've learned is that in a volunteer poll of
people claiming to have Mavericks / gmail problems, 85% of them claim
to have such problems.  Why it isnt 100% is a mystery to me. You only
find that poll if you are ggogling for Mavericks / gmail problems.

> how do you explain such a huge discrepancy?
> 
> and how do you explain apple's hasty patch to fix some (but not all) of
> the gmail issues?
> 
> obviously, there's a problem. 

I'm not asserting that there is no problem. I am asserting that I and
many other users experience no problem.

You, on the other hand are asserting that Mavericks doesn't work eith
gmail, but are unable to provide a single example of a universal (or
even majority user) problem, except the badge problem, which is an
Apple Mail bug that appears unrelated to Gmail.

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Downloding Mavericks David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 06:13 -0800
  Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-17 14:43 +0000
  Re: Downloding Mavericks David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 06:57 -0800
  Re: Downloding Mavericks Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-01-17 10:15 -0600
    Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 11:43 -0500
      Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 13:29 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 12:15 -0700
          Re: Downloding Mavericks super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-01-18 04:55 -0600
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        Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 14:30 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 06:05 -0800
        Re: Downloding Mavericks Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> - 2014-04-12 11:22 +1000
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-12 10:18 -0400
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 13:55 -0400
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                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 15:13 -0400
                Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-12 20:47 +0000
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                Re: Downloding Mavericks Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-12 22:25 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 01:27 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-13 08:21 +0200
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 01:26 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-13 09:44 +0200
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 21:32 +0000
      Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 11:59 -0700
        Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 14:30 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 13:31 -0700
            Re: Downloding Mavericks dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-18 08:54 +1100
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 18:39 -0500
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            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:29 -0500
    Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 13:23 -0500
      Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-19 17:19 +0000
        Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 09:07 +1300
    Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-18 09:41 +1300
      Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 18:39 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 19:02 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 17:12 -0700
          Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2014-01-18 00:14 +0000
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 20:02 -0500
            Re: Downloding Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:55 -0500
              Re: Downloding Mavericks Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-01-18 09:19 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 09:32 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:22 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:53 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:33 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-20 13:09 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:28 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:00 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:45 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:44 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 06:44 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:49 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-21 10:44 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 08:50 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 17:16 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 09:15 +1300
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 02:03 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:28 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:02 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-20 17:24 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:50 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-19 08:03 +1100
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0500
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