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Re: Downloding Mavericks

From Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Downloding Mavericks
Date 2014-01-20 12:33 -0800
Organization Rare
Message-ID <5stxcy5r6h.fsf@ethel.the.log> (permalink)
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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes:

> In article <6861ph9mlg.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson
> <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > > On a slightly related track, can Mavericks be downloaded to a
> > > > > flashdrive and installed on said drive. Then, use that drive to
> > > > > externally boot my MacBook Air 10.7.5 to "test drive" Mavericks before
> > > > > installing it on the MBA as the permanent, boot drive?
> > > > 
> > > > I haven't done this, but I believe the answer is yes.
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder about what you think you want to "test."  Certainly
> > > > because flash drives are slower than disk drives (or SSDs, which is I
> > > > suppose what you have on the MacBook air), you will get poor
> > > > performance from Mavericks everytime it has to load some component off
> > > > of your flash drive.
> > > 
> > > booting from a flash drive is slow, but after that it's quite usable,
> > > certainly more than adequate for testing. where it's slow is writing
> > > back to it more than it is reading from it.
> > 
> > No it is slow at both.  
> 
> it's slow to boot, but entirely usable once booted. i have two usb
> sticks i use from time to time for various purposes, including testing
> versions of os x.
> 
> it wouldn't be advisable to run a disk intensive app off a usb stick,
> but for testing, it's more than adequate.
> 
> > But as I wrote, adequate for testing what exactly?  For testing if
> > Mavericks works on his machine, he doesn't need to do that.  For
> > testing how _well_ it works, he'll get a distorted picture.
> 
> to see if the changes are acceptable. for some people, they are not.
> speed isn't the issue, it's whether the missing features or the changed
> features matter.

I see.  Maybe.  But of course many of the changes can be adjusted in
preferences.  What are the "missing features" to which you refer?

> it's also still fairly buggy, notably apple mail. that might be a show
> stopper right there.

That's an interesting assertion.  I haven't noticed Apple Mail bugs
myself, though the searching doesn't seem quite as snappy to me
(haven't tested if I'm noticing a real difference though).

What sort of Apple Mail bugs have you been seeing?

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Downloding Mavericks David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 06:13 -0800
  Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-17 14:43 +0000
  Re: Downloding Mavericks David Downing <david.h.downing@gmail.com> - 2014-01-17 06:57 -0800
  Re: Downloding Mavericks Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-01-17 10:15 -0600
    Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 11:43 -0500
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        Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 12:15 -0700
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              Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-19 13:30 +1300
        Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 14:30 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 06:05 -0800
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            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 13:55 -0400
              Re: Downloding Mavericks Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-04-12 14:50 -0400
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 15:13 -0400
                Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-04-12 20:47 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-04-12 17:11 -0400
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-04-12 22:25 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 01:27 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-13 08:21 +0200
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 01:26 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-04-13 09:44 +0200
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-04-13 21:32 +0000
      Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 11:59 -0700
        Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 14:30 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 13:31 -0700
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            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 18:39 -0500
            Re: Downloding Mavericks Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-18 10:27 +0000
          Re: Downloding Mavericks "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:26 -0500
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:29 -0500
    Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 13:23 -0500
      Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-19 17:19 +0000
        Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 09:07 +1300
    Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-18 09:41 +1300
      Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 18:39 -0500
        Re: Downloding Mavericks JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-17 19:02 -0500
          Re: Downloding Mavericks Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-01-17 17:12 -0700
          Re: Downloding Mavericks me@home.spamsucks.ca (Kiraly) - 2014-01-18 00:14 +0000
            Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-17 20:02 -0500
            Re: Downloding Mavericks Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-18 10:55 -0500
              Re: Downloding Mavericks Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2014-01-18 09:19 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 09:32 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:12 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-18 10:22 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-18 13:53 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:33 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-20 13:09 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:28 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:00 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:45 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:44 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 06:44 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:49 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks David Fritzinger <dfritzin@nospam.mac.com> - 2014-01-21 10:44 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-21 08:50 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 17:16 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 09:15 +1300
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 02:03 +0000
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 16:28 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 14:02 -0800
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                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 18:43 -0500
                Re: Downloding Mavericks Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:50 -0800
                Re: Downloding Mavericks nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 21:37 -0500
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