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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things?

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject	Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things?
Date	2023-09-05 08:45 +0200
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Am 27.08.2023 um 20:09 schrieb The Starmaker:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>
>>> On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>>> By being indoctrinated in an ideology.
>>>>
>>>> Why can't they defend that with reason?
>>>>
>>>> Because they weren't persuaded by reason.
>>>
>>> Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
>>> twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if
>>> it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can
>>> contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.
>>>
>>> Sylvia.
>>
>> "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
>> "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
>> "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
>> twenties.
>>
>> Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
>> twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.

Also not mentioned were acceleration and induction.

SRT is more or less 'acceleration free', which includes gravity.

It is not a particularily likely restriction, because some sort of 
gravity or other forms of acceleration should be present everywhere.

Also Einstein's discription of induction was, at least, odd, but 
actually the word 'induction' cannot be found at all in his paper.

So we are not sure, whether or not he had induction in mind. But at 
least he mentioned moving magnets and wires and electric fields inside 
conductors.

Missing was, for instance, the requirement for a conductor to form a 
closed loop, if current shall flow throug it.

Usually the influence of moving magnets upon loops of wire is called 
'induction', but not so in Einstein's paper.

Also streight linear motion with constant velocity is a rather harsch 
restriction, because that's not how the universe behaves.

...

TH

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How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 20:15 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 22:58 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 02:38 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 13:22 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-25 02:09 -0400
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-24 23:14 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-25 14:04 -0400
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 22:28 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 02:41 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 02:52 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-25 14:06 -0400
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 07:00 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 10:38 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-08-25 16:45 -0400
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 13:28 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-28 08:44 +0200
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 23:59 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-29 08:44 +0200
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-08-31 08:21 +0200
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-30 23:52 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-09-03 08:11 +0200
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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 02:32 -0700
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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-25 20:18 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 12:36 -0700
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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:31 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:47 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 20:58 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.c.sirius@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 20:42 -0700
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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 13:37 -0700
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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-27 08:04 -0700
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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Richard Hertz <hertz778@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 17:03 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2023-08-26 21:03 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 23:20 -0500
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-27 11:09 -0700
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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-27 12:21 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-08-27 12:52 -0700
Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2023-09-05 08:45 +0200
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