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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things?
Date 2023-08-27 12:21 -0700
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Sylvia Else wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 25-Aug-23 1:15 pm, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> > > > > By being indoctrinated in an ideology.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why can't they defend that with reason?
> > > > >
> > > > > Because they weren't persuaded by reason.
> > > >
> > > > Do you ever wonder how a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
> > > > twenties came to be accepted by the vast majority of physicists? Even if
> > > > it were true now that he is a supreme scientific figure whom no one can
> > > > contradict (spoiler alert, it's not), it wouldn't have been the case then.
> > > >
> > > > Sylvia.
> > >
> > > "the vast majority of physicists" are lemmings and cranks and cooks.
> > > "the vast majority of physicists" are too stupid to contradict what they don't understand!
> > > "the vast majority of physicists" didn't and don't understand a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
> > > twenties.
> > >
> > > Keep in mind that a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
> > > twenties didn't even mentioned Gravity once.
> > >
> > > a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
> > >  twenties didn't know what gravity was!
> > >
> > > a theory proposed by a patent clerk in his
> > > twenties wasn't even good at math.
> > >
> > > Wasn't good at math.
> > > Wasn't good at Gravity.
> > >
> > > He's good at building bombs!
> > >
> > > "Perhaps it will prove possible to test this theory using bodies whose energy content is variable to a high degree (e.g., salts of radium). -- Albert Einstein (1905)
> > >
> > > "...new radium-like elements would be generated. Now it appears
> > >
> > > almost certain that this could be achieved in the immediate future.
> > >
> > >       This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,
> > >
> > > and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely power-
> > >
> > > ful bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this
> > >
> > > type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy
> > >
> > > the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory. However,
> > >
> > > such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by
> > >
> > > air."  -Albert Einstein
> >
> > What the 'scientific community' doesn't understand is that since 1905 Albert Einstein made a beeline
> > to building an atomic bomb. That was his baby. That was His experiment..."prove possible - to test this theory" of his.
> >
> > It had noting about killing Germans. It simply was just an ...experiment.  ("to test this theory")
> >
> > By 1939..in order to "test this theory", he needed money to buy more uranium, so he conned the USA government by telling them
> > 'If you don't give me the fuckin money you are all going to die!'
> >
> > "...b) to speed up the experimental work, which is at present being car-
> >
> > ried on within the limits of the budgets of University laboratories, by
> >
> > providing funds, ..."
> >
> > In order words, Albert Einstein (a government unto himself) was selling 'protection'.
> >
> > to speed up the experimental work
> > which is at present
> > being carried on within the limits
> > of the budgets of University laboratories
> >
> > So, he wouldn't have taken TEN YEARS to finish General Relativity if he wasn't
> > soooo preoccupied  "to test this theory".
> >
> > Here is his blueprint to build an atomic bomb
> >
> > Albert Einstein's letters to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt
> > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> >
> > OPM (other people's money)
> 
> "It reflects his curiosity and anticipation of future experiments at universities that could provide empirical evidence to support his groundbreaking ideas."
> ..
> 
> "By using substances like radium salts with variable energy content, Einstein envisioned experiments that could potentially demonstrate the
> conversion of mass into energy and validate his theory.
> However, it's important to note that while his proposal was conceptually sound, the exact experimental implementation and verification may
> have required further advancements in technology and experimental techniques.
> 
> It reflects his curiosity and anticipation of future experiments at universities that could provide empirical evidence to support his groundbreaking ideas."

"At the time, radium was a known radioactive element that emitted
radiation and was associated with the release of energy.
Einstein's suggestion to test his theory using radium salts was based on
the understanding that radioactive materials, like radium,
undergo spontaneous disintegration, resulting in the emission of
radiation and the release of energy.

By using radium salts or similar radioactive materials, Einstein
envisioned conducting experiments to observe whether there would be any
detectable changes in
the mass of the radioactive substances as they emitted energy. Such
experiments would provide empirical evidence to support or
validate his mass-energy equivalence theory, as described by the
equation E=mc²." 



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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