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Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: How can highly intelligent people wind up believing foolish things?
Date 2023-08-29 08:44 +0200
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Am 28.08.2023 um 08:59 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:

>>> Crackpot evidence #2341: Claiming all physicists are "indoctrinated",
>>> "brainwashed", followers of a "cult of relativity" or at least followers
>>> of a "religion" worshiping Einstein.
>>>
>>
>> I had a dream how this works:
>>
>> I dreamt of people, who where forced to do stupid things, which are
>> dangerous and annoying.
>>
>> They had a choice:
>> a)reject the disgusting stuff and get expelled
>> b)do stupid things and obey and get promoted.
>>
>> Now the newbies of kind b) get tasks, which are VERY annoying and hence
>> they would like to leave (what is prohibited) or to raise in the ranks.
>>
>> Only the latter is an option, hence they swallow their disgust and anger
>> and run with the herd.
>>
>> Once they are 'well done', they get promoted and are now ready to kick
>> those in the butt, who are new.
>>
>> After practicing this enough and well, they get a promotion.
>>
>> Now their new taks is to do nasty things like telling complete bullshit
>> to the public.
>>
>> Once they succeede, they get promoted again and raise to the next level.
>>
>> There they get an advertising agency, for instance, or a newspaper or
>> other means of mass manipulation and enough money to promote the
>> bullshit from the levels below.
>
> Bullshit, sorry, that's not how a cult works.
>

How do you know?

I thought, that system would be kind of 'fool-proof' and would use, what 
is common among people.

If would provide an endless stream of usable itiots, which could be 
exploited by all means possible.


Now we only need to search for signs of bullshit with reputation, which 
remained in their position of high reputation since then.

With this we could reconstruct the position of the bullshit artist in 
the ranks and files of such a system at the time in question.


TH



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