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Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help

From BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.ubuntu, comp.sys.laptops
Subject Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help
Date 2012-02-07 22:24 -0600
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> BillW50 wrote:
>> FatBytestard wrote:
>>> On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:34:06 -0600, BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>>> BillW50 wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, I heard that lie too. But Ubuntu Live does use the Windows
>>>>>> swapfile. I have proved this time and time again.
>>>>> No the live cd|usb does not alter your drive in anyway if you only
>>>>> use a *live session*, i.e., "Try Ubuntu without making changes to
>>>>> your computer" option . That is not the case a wubi install or if
>>>>> you click "Install" within a live session,
>>>> That is not true at all! I did this three times because I believed
>>>> the same as you do. But it isn't true! Ubuntu Live does scan the
>>>> Windows partition and does grab the Windows swapfile for its own use.
>>>> The first time it happened I thought it was some sort of fluke. The
>>>> second time I had my doubts. The third time I was absolutely positive
>>>> it was Ubuntu Live.
>>>
>>> Are you running it from within windows? You should have read what he
>>> wrote more carefully.
>>>
>>> Because if you BOOT the disk, it *will* use a valid Linux swap
>>> partition OR a valid Linux swap file, which many live distros prompt you
>>> for creating. It does NOT use the Windows swap file. It is 100%
>>> incompatible.
>>>
>>> It absolutely does NOT use it, at all, whatsoever, UNLESS you start
>>> your "live" session as virtual session from within Windows. When that
>>> happens, WINDOWS is what is using the swap file STILL.
>>>
>>> If *that* is how you are "running" it, you are NOT running from a Live
>>> Machine BOOT. Virtual machines do not count. Period. A shell from
>>> within the Windows desktop operates from WITHIN Windows, and every
>>> resource it "sees" is made available to it BY Windows.
>>>
>>> So, if you keep stamping your feet, you are telling me that you have,
>>> in EVERY case, been running your Linux session from WITHIN a Windows
>>> session. That is NOT Linux using your Windows swap file, that is WINDOWS
>>> using it. Even though your "foreground" app "appears to be" Linux.
>>>
>>> Those are the rules. NOBODY but BillyWare uses Billy's swap file.
>>
>> Pure bull! I booted Ubuntu Live from a flash drive (using a CD it
>> doesn't matter) and Windows XP was installed om the drive with the
>> swapfile turned off. I probably would have never noticed anything except
>> I also had iBand (US Robotics) installed.
>>
>> And after running Ubuntu Live that Windows would boot and hang with a
>> window saying Windows Installer and that is it. Unbelievable! As I was
>> told Ubuntu doesn't touch Windows. And I believed it. So I restored
>> Windows from a recent backup and it was flawless.
> 
> You're talking about the *wubi* installer not a Live CD session that 
> *only* uses a ram drive. Starting with I think Jaunty, Canonical started 
> having an autorun linked to wubi and if you stuck the CD WHILE in 
> Windows it would initialize wubi. Wubi was garbage IMO, and used to 
> foul-up on me because of number of drives I had on the system and they 
> was not continuous drive letters.
> 
> Now if you exited out of windows and then *booted* from the disk you 
> could get the *true* Live CDs that does not run within Windows and 
> absolutely do not use your Window's swap file.

No! I booted Ubuntu Live and Windows didn't have a chance to do anything 
and was dead in the water. The only thing that could do anything was 
Ubuntu Live as that was the only thing that was running.

-- 
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix Linux

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scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 12:58 -0800
  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help retsuhcs@xinap.moc (Mike S.) - 2012-01-31 21:18 +0000
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 13:30 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 19:09 -0800
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-01-31 14:44 -0800
  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-31 15:33 -0600
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-01-31 16:07 -0600
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2012-02-01 14:45 +0100
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-01-31 23:55 +0100
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 04:17 -0800
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-01 17:08 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 18:33 -0800
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 12:07 +0000
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 11:29 +0000
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-06 04:12 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2012-02-06 12:46 +0000
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 11:09 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 12:42 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 12:00 -0600
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2012-02-06 12:51 -0600
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 15:57 -0600
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 17:34 -0500
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 17:20 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 21:03 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 15:40 -0800
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Harry Vaderchi" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2012-02-23 09:08 +0000
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 01:38 +0100
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:34 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 19:10 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 18:26 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Alias <aka@maskedandanonymous.net.invlad> - 2012-02-08 01:30 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 16:59 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 19:49 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:38 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help FatBytestard <PhatBytestard@somewheronyourharddrive.org> - 2012-02-07 18:44 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 21:37 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 23:01 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 22:24 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-08 00:10 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-08 00:20 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:44 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:35 +0100
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 20:42 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 06:57 +0100
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-06 13:01 -0600
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-06 23:18 +0000
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 17:39 -0600
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-07 00:02 +0000
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-06 19:44 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2012-02-07 02:31 +0000
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-06 23:46 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:10 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:05 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-06 23:48 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:11 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-07 18:35 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 22:25 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-07 21:45 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-02-08 00:21 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:10 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 09:26 +0100
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 01:46 +0100
            Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-06 23:43 -0500
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 09:40 +0100
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-07 17:11 -0600
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-08 07:34 +0100
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 06:15 -0800
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> - 2012-02-12 10:17 -0500
                Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Bob_Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> - 2012-02-12 07:34 -0800
              Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-08 17:18 +0000
  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help MarkA <someone@somewhere.invalid> - 2012-02-01 14:45 -0500
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 12:25 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-01 22:02 +0100
  Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-01 22:06 +0000
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 17:57 -0500
    Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 15:12 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> - 2012-02-01 18:55 -0600
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-01 17:08 -0800
      Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help wrat@panix.com (the wharf rat) - 2012-02-06 12:08 +0000
        Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help The_Giant_Rat_of_Sumatra <GeorgeTirebiter@drmemory.org> - 2012-02-06 04:15 -0800
          Re: scan apps fail to detect scanner device with headset plugged in - please help "Adam" <adam@no_thanks.com> - 2012-02-06 13:35 -0800

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