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Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop

From Octothorpe <Octothorpe@invalid.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop
Date 2013-06-26 19:28 -0400
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On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:55:11 -0400, Dan Espen wrote:

> Octothorpe <Octothorpe@invalid.com> writes:
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:42:58 -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
>>
[putolin]

>> The function and use of that package doesn't require the dependency and
>> it doesn't appear to use anything from glib but it won't build without
>> it.
>> So why the dependency?

You still did not answer the question why the dependency on glib.

pkg-config is only used at the building stage and all it does is to 
provide the library and header paths to autotools at the configure stage 
in building.
Go have a look at one of the files in /usr/lib/pkg-config.

Then answer the question. What the hell does pkg-config need glib for?

You can build all your packages without pkg-config but using pkg-config 
is much easier go.

> 
> At the binary level pkgconfig depends on glib2:
> 
> # yum deplist pkgconfig package: pkgconfig.i686 1:0.25-4.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libglib-2.0.so.0
>    provider: glib2.i686 2.32.4-2.fc17
>   dependency: libpopt.so.0
>    provider: popt.i686 1.13-10.fc17
>   dependency: libpopt.so.0(LIBPOPT_0)
>    provider: popt.i686 1.13-10.fc17
>   dependency: rtld(GNU_HASH)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
> 
> But glib2 does NOT depend on pkgconfig:
> 
> # yum deplist glib2 package: glib2.i686 2.32.4-2.fc17
>   dependency: /bin/sh
>    provider: bash.i686 4.2.39-3.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.2)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.15)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2.3)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3.4)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.4)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.5)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.8)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.9)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libdl.so.2
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.0)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libdl.so.2(GLIBC_2.1)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libfam.so.0
>    provider: gamin.i686 0.1.10-12.fc17
>   dependency: libffi.so.5
>    provider: libffi.i686 3.0.10-2.fc17
>   dependency: libpthread.so.0
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.3)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libresolv.so.2
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libresolv.so.2(GLIBC_2.2)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: librt.so.1
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: librt.so.1(GLIBC_2.2)
>    provider: glibc.i686 2.15-59.fc17
>   dependency: libselinux.so.1
> 
> Being that glib2 is pretty low level, I don't see a problem.

On my scratch built system.....

rpm -qp --requires pkg-config-0.28-1.i686.rpm
libc.so.6
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.2)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.17)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.3)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.7)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.9)
libpthread.so.0
libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0)
libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.1)
libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2)
libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.2)
libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.3.3)
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1

see the glib depends......NO?
popt is not there also.
BTW it was compiled with glibc version 2.17 as the libc library.
Oh see it only needs glibc, the rpm dependency is given as this is a rpm 
based scratch built system.

Now...
Because you are only looking at some of the binary dependencies which you 
are doing that a bit incorrectly.  You need to look at the dynamic 
dependencies using ldd for all the binary packages library and 
otherwise.  Then you have all the run time dependencies for all the 
"scripts" that are included with the package. But I digress....

If you understand what pkg-config is suppose to do you would indeed ask 
yourself what the hell is the glib dependency for?

In the beginning.....pkg-config did not have the dependency on glib it 
was added only as of late.

Try building a tool chain of binutils autotools and gcc, not to mention 
coreutils.  Then when you do get to the point of building glib it then 
collides with pkg-config because pkg-config was built with the internal 
glib.  Not to mention the package manager issues.  It is easy after you 
get to the distro point.

Try thinking outside the box.

That is my complaint and point.... 
Years ago in the good olde days it was much much easier.  
Things now today are getting completely out of hand.

> 
>>> I'm beginning to think you are making this up.
>>> Are you looking for help or just ranting?
>>
>> The question is have you ever tried to build a system from scratch?
>>
>> If you have then you would know what I am talking about.
>>
>> It is more than just 2 packages.
> 
> I think you mean have I ever tried to build a Linux system from scratch.
> Nope, doesn't sound even remotely interesting.

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