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Re: Health related - linux please help

From "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Health related - linux please help
Date 2018-09-14 16:37 -0400
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On 14/09/2018 02.28, Eli the Bearded wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> Common! It is not that difficult, mailx is quite sophisticated. It
>> can send using gmail on its own.
> 
> I don't know what mailx you are using, but it's not mine.
> 
>> *How to Send Email from mailx Command in Linux Using Gmail's SMTP* 
>> <https://www.systutorials.com/1411/sending-email-from-mailx-command-in-linux-using-gmails-smtp/>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
Example:
>> 
>> 
>> $ mailx -v -s "$EMAIL_SUBJECT" \ -S smtp-use-starttls \
> 
> I have three versions of mailx handy (one is "nail"), none of them
> have a documented -S switch. One of them, I know the source code
> quite well, and I know it doesn't have an undocumented -S switch.
> (It's clear that -S just acts like the "set" command, so not hard to
> implement.) But someone has rewitten the backend mailer portion in
> that version. Mine just hands mail off to the system MTA, and can't
> speak SMTP at all.
> 
> The classic design of an MUA is that it hands mail off to a local
> MTA, and then the MTA handles the network aspects, including retries
> if a remote MTA can't be reached immediately. Disconnected servers
> with no local MTA have changed the common case, and that version of
> mailx has clearly followed.
> 
> Elijah ------ there's a "copyright 1978" in mail.c in his mailx
> source
> 

I understand (Heirloom) mailx was written this century.

And:

      As mailx is a mail user agent, it provides only basic SMTP
services.  If it fails to contact its  upstream
       SMTP  server,  it  will not make further attempts to transfer the
message at a later time, and it does not
       leave other information about this condition than an error
message on the  terminal  and  a  `dead.letter'
       file.   This  is usually not a problem if the SMTP server is
located in the same local network as the com-
       puter on which mailx is run.  However, care should be taken when
using a remote server of an ISP; it might
       be better to set up a local SMTP server then which just acts as a
proxy.

       Mailx  immediately  contacts  the  SMTP  server (or
/usr/lib/sendmail) even when operating in disconnected
       mode.  It would not make much sense for mailx to defer outgoing
mail since SMTP  servers  usually  provide
       much  more elaborated delay handling than mailx could perform as
a client.  Thus the recommended setup for
       sending mail in disconnected mode is to configure a local SMTP
server such that it sends outgoing mail  as
       soon  as  an  external  network connection is available again,
i.e. to advise it to do that from a network
       startup script.


-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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