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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?
Date 2018-07-12 16:16 +0200
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Am 11.07.2018 um 08:43 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Well, yes, but Einstein was at least partially right...
> 
> He was exactly right.  You have no clue.
> 
>> But actually time is not about simultaneity at all.
> 
> Yes it is.

That depends on the definition of 'time'.

If I have a look at my wrist-watch, I do not need to synchronize my 
watch with yours.

Actually I do not care, whether or not your clock runs slow, fast or 
backwards.

>> If we boil an egg, for instance, and have to wait five minutes, there is
>> not simultaneity with remote observers involved.
> 
> But that the events “the clock shows that five minutes have passed” and
> “the egg has reached a certain cooking state” are simultaneous.


They are also happening at the same location. This is NOT the problem, 
that SRT tries to cover.

SRT discusses the synchronization of clocks between remote observers.

But what has that to do with physics and/or processes in nature ?

>> We have to start a timer (aka 'sand clock') and wait five minutes.
> 
> Circular reasoning.  One uses the timer to *tell* that it has been five
> minutes.  Time is what a clock (any kind of proper clock) *tells* you.
> There is no other way.

Now you only need to measure 'properness' of your proper clocks.

> 
>> There is no need to synchronize anything […]
> 
> Yes, there is.  Einstein explains why.  Learn to read.
> 

I told you, that I have read and think, that Einstein was wrong and 
Herman Minkowski was right.


TH

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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 12:54 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 06:51 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:34 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:21 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:45 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:40 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 13:52 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:43 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:13 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:16 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:38 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 14:00 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:21 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 05:53 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 07:10 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:30 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 10:54 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 12:00 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 12:12 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 12:22 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:02 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:27 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 16:40 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-20 03:48 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:14 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:46 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 14:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-20 07:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 14:05 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:06 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:19 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 11:37 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-19 15:26 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:15 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:57 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:34 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:47 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:01 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:15 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:23 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:27 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:12 +0000
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 12:29 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-14 07:23 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-14 10:50 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 22:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:30 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 07:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 16:24 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 12:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:37 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:20 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:51 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 15:01 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:43 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 08:48 -0700
              Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-12 16:09 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 09:31 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 15:28 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 16:56 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 17:42 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 18:06 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 13:14 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 03:33 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 13:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-16 00:05 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:34 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-15 18:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:05 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:07 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-16 17:57 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 20:51 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:56 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 21:34 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 13:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-18 08:32 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-18 00:42 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-18 13:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-19 18:47 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 09:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-20 18:34 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 09:50 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-20 21:16 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:13 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:54 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 14:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 15:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 22:42 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 23:33 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:30 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:02 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 22:47 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:28 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-07 22:40 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-13 21:01 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-16 22:52 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-17 14:19 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-18 08:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-18 19:29 +0200
              Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-12 08:48 -0700
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