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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?
Date	2018-07-10 22:13 +0200
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Am 10.07.2018 um 00:53 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> kenseto wrote:
>> Why did Einstein bring up the concept of relativity of simultaneity (RoS) when he formulate SRT?
> 
> He explains this in the paper, beginning at the end of the introduction:
> 
> | […]
> |   Like every other electrodynamics, the theory to be developed is based on
> | the kinematics of the rigid body, since assertions of each and any theory
> | concern the relations between rigid bodies (coordinate systems), clocks,
> | and electromagnetic processes. Insufficient regard for this circumstance
> | is at the root of the difficulties with which the electrodynamics of
> | moving bodies must presently grapple.
> |
> |
> |                             Ⅰ. Kinematic Part
> |
> |                     §1. Definition of simultaneity
> |
> | […]
> |   If we want to describe the /motion/ of a material point, we give the
> | values of its coordinates as a function of time. However, we should keep
> | in mind that for such a mathematical description to have physical meaning,
> | we first have to clarify what is to be understood here by "time."  We have
> | to bear in mind that all our propositions involving time are always
> | propositions about /simultaneous events/.  If, for example, I say that
> | "the train arrives here at 7 o'clock," that means, more or less, "the
> | pointing of the small hand of my clock to 7 and the arrival of the train
> | are simultaneous events.
> | […]
> 
>> [not even wrong]

Well, yes, but Einstein was at least partially right...

But actually time is not about simultaneity at all.

If we boil an egg, for instance, and have to wait five minutes, there is 
not simultaneity with remote observers involved.

We have to start a timer (aka 'sand clock') and wait five minutes.

There is no need to synchronize anything and we have no need to dispute 
with observers, passing by at relativistic velocities.

The main feature of time is something else. That is the series of 
events, which we usually count (tick, tack,....).

The number of ticks is what we mean with time. Hence time is mainly 
meant as duration, not as absolute value of some kind of abstract 
measure - let alone the time at a space station near Alpha Centaury.

TH

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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-09 08:05 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 06:51 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:21 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:43 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:16 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 14:00 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 05:53 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 07:10 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:30 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 12:00 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 12:12 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 12:22 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:02 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:27 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 16:40 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:14 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:46 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 14:18 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-20 07:32 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 14:05 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:06 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:19 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 11:37 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:55 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-19 15:26 -0400
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:15 -0400
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:57 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:34 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:18 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:47 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:01 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:15 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:23 -0400
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:59 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:27 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:12 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-16 13:10 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 12:29 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-14 07:23 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-14 10:50 -0400
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 22:45 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:30 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 07:45 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 16:24 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 12:32 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:37 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:20 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:51 -0400
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 15:01 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:43 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 08:48 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-12 16:09 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:53 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 09:31 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 15:28 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 16:56 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 17:42 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 18:06 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 13:14 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 03:33 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 13:55 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-16 00:05 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:34 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-15 18:17 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:05 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:07 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-16 17:57 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 20:51 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:56 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 21:34 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 13:45 -0700
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-18 08:32 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-18 00:42 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-18 13:18 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 09:55 -0700
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-20 21:16 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:13 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:54 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 14:17 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 15:53 +0200
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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 23:33 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:30 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:02 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 22:47 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:17 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:28 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-07 22:40 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-13 21:01 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-16 22:52 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-17 14:19 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-18 08:53 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-18 19:29 +0200
Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-12 08:48 -0700
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