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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?
Date 2018-08-13 21:01 +0200
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Am 07.08.2018 um 22:40 schrieb Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am 18.07.2018 um 22:18 schrieb mlwozniak@wp.pl:
>>> On Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:54:40 UTC+2, Thomas Heger  wrote:
>>>> The question was, whether or not natural systems behave like Euclidean
>>>> space.
>>>> I would say: no, they don't.
>>> And it's probably true that you would say it.
>>
>> Our universe is not a Euclidean space.
> 
> The SPACE of our universe is very close to being Euclidean, i.e. it is
> approximately flat.  Its curvature is close to zero, and in the observable
> universe the inner angle sum of a triangle is very close to 180°.
> 

I have already written, that the term 'space' matches the description of 
the past light cone in Minkowski's spacetime.

That 'space' is obviously 'flat'.

But - OTOH - that space is not real, but kind of optical illusion.

>> The main reason:
> 
> WRONG. You still don’t get it.

Here I cannot follow.

If you write, that something is wrong, than you should say WHAT is wrong 
(and why).

> 
>> space (the universe) has a time-component,
> 
> Correct only because you said “the universe”, too.
> 
>> what Euclidean space has not.
> 
> WRONG.
> 

Not true.

'Euclidean space' is meant as set of all possible 3D coordinates, which 
follow certain axioms.

Non of these axioms nor the coordinates themselves should have any 
connection to time.

So: Euclidean space is meant as timeless (or 'static').

Clearly that is not the character of the universe we observe.

Reason: one light year further away means one year earlier.

So our vision of the night sky is 'stacked' in time (like Russian dolls).

>> It is also (apparently) not a linear space.
> 
> WRONG.
> 

If straight lines are curved, than space is not linear.

>> So the construct 'Euclidean space' is a local approximation.
> 
> WRONG.

Euclidean space is the model used in our daily life, and that is usually 
meant local.

How the real universe behaves somewhere remote, that is a question of 
debate (and research), but certainly not like Euclidean space.

...


TH

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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 17:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 12:54 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 06:51 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:34 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:21 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:45 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:40 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:43 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:13 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:16 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:38 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 14:00 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:21 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 05:53 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 07:10 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:30 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 10:54 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 12:00 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 12:12 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 12:22 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:02 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:27 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 16:40 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-20 03:48 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:14 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:46 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 14:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-20 07:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 14:05 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:06 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:19 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 11:37 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-19 15:26 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:15 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:57 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:34 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:47 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:01 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:15 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:23 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:27 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:12 +0000
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-14 07:23 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-14 10:50 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 22:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:30 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 07:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 16:24 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 12:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:37 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:20 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:51 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 15:01 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:43 -0700
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              Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-12 16:09 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 09:31 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 15:28 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 16:56 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 17:42 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 18:06 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 13:14 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 13:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-16 00:05 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:34 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-15 18:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:05 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:07 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-16 17:57 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 20:51 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:56 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 21:34 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 13:45 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-18 13:18 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 09:55 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 09:50 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-20 21:16 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:13 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:54 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 14:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 15:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 22:42 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 23:33 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:30 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:02 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 22:47 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:28 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-07 22:40 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-13 21:01 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-16 22:52 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-17 14:19 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-18 08:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-18 19:29 +0200
              Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-12 08:48 -0700
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