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Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT?
Date 2018-07-18 08:32 +0200
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Am 17.07.2018 um 22:45 schrieb mlwozniak@wp.pl:
> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:34:24 UTC+2, Thomas Heger  wrote:
>> Am 17.07.2018 um 20:56 schrieb mlwozniak@wp.pl:
>>> On Tuesday, 17 July 2018 20:51:42 UTC+2, Thomas Heger  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Cartesian coordinates is actually not the way, in which nature behaves.
>>>
>>> Which, precisely, experiment has falsified Euclidean
>>> geometry, poor idiot?
>>>
>>
>> If you want to follow the path of a - say - stone through space and
>> time, you would certainly do it like this:
>>
>> the stone is somewhere at the beginning.
> 
> If the EG gave any conclusions about stones,
> it would be full of theorems of stones. It
> is not. You can't conclude anything about
> stones from it. And thus, you can't falsify
> it with experiments of stones.
> 
> Try again. Which, precisely, experiment has
> falsified Euclidean geometry?
> 

I meant, that stones would prefer polar coordinates (instead of 
Cartesian), since they don't know, where they are.

The values x,y and z, as coordinates in Euclidean space, are not 
'natural'. That wouldn't render EG wrong.

But things and states evolve from previous states and are not subject to 
absolute coordinates.

A stone was just an example of a thing in nature. Those are 
predominantly not very smart and not aware of their position.

You are certainly much smarter, but even you cannot really say, where 
you are (in some kind of absolute coordinates).

Relativity also tells, that you cannot distinguish between inertial 
motion and being at rest.

Also time is very difficult to measure as absolute value. Instead we use 
calenders based on certain events. That is a relative measurement, too.

So it would be more 'natural' to think in terms of change from former 
inertial motion and arbitrary previous positions, rather than in x, y 
and z (and t of course) coordinates.

Than you get angles in spacetime, which could be measured with complex 
numbers, (if i is regarded as an angle in a complex plane).

TH

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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 22:30 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 17:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 12:54 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 06:51 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 15:34 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:21 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:45 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:40 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 13:52 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:43 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:13 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:16 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 07:38 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 14:00 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:21 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 05:53 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 07:10 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 10:30 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 10:54 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 12:00 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 12:12 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 12:22 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:02 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:27 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 16:40 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-07-20 03:48 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 13:14 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 13:46 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-19 14:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-20 07:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 15:21 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 14:05 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 06:06 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:19 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-19 11:37 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2018-07-19 11:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-19 15:26 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:15 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:57 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:34 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:18 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 13:47 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:01 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 14:15 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 17:23 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 21:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-18 06:27 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-18 14:12 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-16 13:10 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-13 12:29 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-14 07:23 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-14 10:50 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 22:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:30 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 07:45 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 16:24 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-16 12:32 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:37 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 12:59 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 06:20 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Volney <volney@volney.invalid> - 2018-07-17 09:51 -0400
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-07-17 15:20 +0000
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 15:01 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-07-17 05:43 -0700
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              Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-12 16:09 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-12 18:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 09:31 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 15:28 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-14 16:56 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 17:42 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-14 18:06 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-14 13:14 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 03:33 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mitchrae3323@gmail.com - 2018-07-15 13:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-16 00:05 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Edward Prochak <edprochak@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:34 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-15 18:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:05 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-15 21:07 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-16 17:57 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 20:51 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 11:56 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-17 21:34 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-17 13:45 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-18 13:18 -0700
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                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-19 09:55 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-20 18:34 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-20 09:50 -0700
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-20 21:16 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:13 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-21 20:54 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 14:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-22 15:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 22:42 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-22 23:33 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:30 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:02 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-25 22:47 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-23 00:17 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-24 21:28 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-07 22:40 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-08-13 21:01 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-08-16 22:52 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-17 14:19 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2018-07-18 08:53 +0200
                Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2018-07-18 19:29 +0200
              Re: Why did Einstein bring up the concept of simultaneity when he formulate SRT? mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2018-07-12 08:48 -0700
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