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Re: dictation without internet?

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad
Subject Re: dictation without internet?
Date 2016-09-22 16:40 +0000
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crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/21/2016 06:04 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> 
>> Bad network connectivity is definitely a problem. Glad I don't have it. If
>> I were living off the grid I'd have *some* sort of connectivity. And I
>> suppose if not, I'd disable Siri (and refrain from holding down the Home
>> button).
> 
> That's great in theory, but if you carry the phone in a back pocket, 
> your ass may not implement that particular kind of restraint.

Sounds like a personal problem. I never put my expensive electronic devices
in any situation where they can be mishandled, including forcing them to
endure all my weight by sitting on them. To me that's a very foolish thing
to do. I treat my expensive electronics with care because I intend to
either resell them for a profit or hand them down to someone else when I am
done with them.

> Sometimes we have decent connectivity, sometimes not.  It seems to vary 
> greatly based on time of day (probably load-related) and atmospheric 
> conditions, higher humidity seems to give better signal strength on our 
> end than when things are dry.  On Verizon's coverage map we're just 
> outside their claimed coverage area.
> 
> Doubtless I would have better connectivity if I moved to a city, but I'd 
> rather live with intermittent connectivity than live in a city.

Realistically, you don't have to live *in* a city to get good network
access - just near one. It's quite possible to have good connectivity
living somewhat far away from a city. It's only when you get really far
away from everything that you start to have problems.

> It just seems way messed up that Apple's flagship mobile os can't cope 
> with bad connectivity conditions and drains the battery trying, they 
> seem to believe everybody lives in Cupertino; been there, have the 
> scars, not going back.  It's not like turning off voice control has 
> never been asked for (cf above link), and it can't be that big change.

Then again, considering it's clearly your choice to spend that much time in
areas with crappy connectivity, how hard is it for you to simply turn on
Airplane mode once you get there, and flip it back off when you leave?

>>> Suggestions for putting a bug in Apple's ear?  
>>
>> If you want to file a big report, you want:
>> 
>> <https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/>
> 
> Thanks, but I'm just going to wait and see. 

Then why'd you bother asking?

>> I'm liking iOS 10, overall. Though there are things I dislike. AirPlay
>> seems to only offer mirroring on my iPhone 5 now, which makes playing
>> content on my Apple TV choppy and more problematic than normal. And a
>> couple apps I use obviously need a round of bug fixes. : (
> 
> I'm not seeing that much difference, other than the push-home-button 
> change which is reverted easily enough, 

Not on my iPhone 5, it seems. I now *have* to press the Home button twice
to log in. A minor irritation.

> and the new look for the 
> control-panel and notification-area.  

I like the changes to notifications; but the splitting of the control panel
into separate pages seems arbitrary. It complicates what was otherwise
simple and seems like a step backwards to me. For a day or so after the
upgrade, I thought iOS 20 was limited to only mirroring in AirPlay, until I
realized there was a second control page that had the normal AirPlay
control I needed. I hope they reverse the decision to split it up into
multiple pages, personally.

> And the addition of the Home app, 
> which thankfully can now be disappeared.

I like the Home app, and hope to one day use it with my network cameras. I
like that you can hide some builtin apps too.

> Some things work better, others no worse mostly.  Though I have been 
> seeing some instances of non-response in the Settings app, sometimes it 
> acts hung-up and doesn't notice a tap on a button, but going to Home and 
> back usually breaks it loose; I suspect this is due to some network 
> issue hogging the processor, which indicates some fairly crude code, but 
> it's theirs to solve and not mine.

Airplane mode would likely fix most of your network-related issues.

-- 
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JR

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            Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 19:35 +0000
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                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 05:12 -0600
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  Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 01:08 +0000
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