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Re: dictation without internet?

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad
Subject Re: dictation without internet?
Date 2016-09-22 00:04 +0000
Message-ID <e4glfhFn847U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/17/2016 11:49 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 09/16/2016 07:11 AM, David Empson wrote:
>>>> crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> In fact I'm holding off on the iOS 10 install because I'm afraid it might
>>>>> make it more difficult to turn off the useless Siri component than it
>>>>> already is.
>>>> 
>>>> Settings > Siri > (set slider to off position)
>>>> 
>>>> Same as before. How is that difficult?
>>> 
>>> Turn off Siri and on an iPhone and that turns on Voice Control which
>>> cannot be disabled under iOS 9.
>> 
>> Huh? I just turned off Siri on my iPhone running iOS 10, and Voice Control
>> is off, which is what I would expect since I've never used Voice Control
>> and have no need for it.
> 
> It doesn't sound like you even know what it is.

Of course I do. It's a feature for people who want user interface elements
announced audibly. 

> With Siri disabled, 
> press and hold the home button.  

Why would I bother holding the Home button if I've disabled Siri? I don't
see any need for holding it down since that's how you invoke Siri, which is
disabled.

> It makes a "pong!" sound and the 
> goddamn thing talks to you because it thinks it's an iPod.  There is no 
> way to turn it off in iOS 9, and apparently no way to turn it off in iOS 
> 10 either:
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7665023?start=0&tstart=0

Easily solved by not holding down the Home button.

> Voice control goes away if you enable Siri.  If you enable Siri and your 
> network connectivity is as bad as mine, you'll find that battery usage 
> is such that you've used over 50% of the battery within 24 hours even if 
> you're not using the phone at all other than to receive calls.

Bad network connectivity is definitely a problem. Glad I don't have it. If
I were living off the grid I'd have *some* sort of connectivity. And I
suppose if not, I'd disable Siri (and refrain from holding down the Home
button).

> Suggestions for putting a bug in Apple's ear?  Obviously their 
> web-forums don't do shit, or the above link would not leave the issue 
> unresolved.

Those are community forums. If you want to file a big report, you want:

<https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/>

> On the positive side, I do notice that they've fixed a couple bugs that 
> were causing NewsTap to misbehave.  Every little bit helps.

I'm liking iOS 10, overall. Though there are things I dislike. AirPlay
seems to only offer mirroring on my iPhone 5 now, which makes playing
content on my Apple TV choppy and more problematic than normal. And a
couple apps I use obviously need a round of bug fixes. : (

-- 
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JR

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    Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:36 -0600
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        Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:34 -0600
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        Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 17:01 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 20:23 +0200
            Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-12 19:35 +0000
      Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 02:42 -0500
    Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 10:50 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-12 20:30 +0200
  Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 03:02 -0500
    Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-13 09:43 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-13 15:00 -0500
        Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-13 21:02 +0000
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:27 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 07:26 -0600
    Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-14 09:04 +0200
      Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-14 03:00 -0500
        Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 16:22 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-15 02:34 +0200
          Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:21 -0600
            Re: dictation without internet? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 19:38 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:37 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-17 01:11 +1200
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-17 08:02 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-17 17:49 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-21 11:48 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-22 00:04 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-22 04:23 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-22 10:50 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-22 10:58 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-22 16:40 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 05:12 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-22 16:40 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-22 16:51 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-22 18:40 -0400
                Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-23 05:14 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-23 19:56 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-23 21:03 -0400
                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-24 20:27 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-24 22:34 -0400
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                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-25 17:35 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-24 01:20 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-24 04:00 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-23 05:20 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-23 16:48 +0000
                Re: dictation without internet? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2016-09-18 12:18 +1200
              Re: dictation without internet? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:17 +0000
            Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:49 -0500
              Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:46 -0600
                Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:52 -0500
        Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-15 08:40 +0200
          Re: dictation without internet? Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> - 2016-09-15 15:38 -0400
            Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-17 16:02 +0200
        Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:45 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-17 20:17 +0000
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            Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-17 16:33 -0500
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      Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-15 18:43 -0500
  Re: dictation without internet? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2016-09-14 09:08 +0200
    Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-14 03:21 -0500
      Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-14 16:22 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-09-15 17:09 -0500
          Re: dictation without internet? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2016-09-15 23:20 +0000
            Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 01:16 +0000
              Re: dictation without internet? "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-17 15:59 -0500
                Re: dictation without internet? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-09-17 14:06 -0700
            Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:40 -0600
          Re: dictation without internet? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-16 01:14 +0000
    Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 02:46 +0200
  Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 01:08 +0000
    Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-15 05:31 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-15 16:45 +0000
        Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:29 -0600
      Re: dictation without internet? crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-16 04:21 -0600
        Re: dictation without internet? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2016-09-16 16:44 +0000
    Re: dictation without internet? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-09-19 03:00 +0200

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