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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft

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Am 20.09.2016 03:02, schrieb Bob Officer:
> Thomas Heger<ttt_heg@web.de>  wrote:
>> Am 19.09.2016 06:53, schrieb Attila<:
>
>>
>>>>> Who said the solar system was as old as the universe?
>>>>>
>>>>> Even you should be embarrassed by this one.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Universe is assumed to be roughly 13.6 billion years old and the
>>>> suns age is about 5 billion years (if I recall that correct).
>>>>
>>>> But even 13.6 billion years is only the age of OUR universe and this is
>>>> what we can see from our position here on Earth.
>>>>
>>>> I assume, that 'the universe' is only a subset from something larger.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. we could assume a timeline, which points into the opposite
>>>> direction, where our future is there the past.
>>>>
>>>> This would also create a universe, but we could not see it. Also someone
>>>> from there could not see us.
>>>>
>>>> Another possibility is a 'universe around the corner'. This would be a
>>>> universe, which belongs to an axis of time, that had an angle towards
>>>> our axis of time.
>>>>
>>>> This would also be invisible.
>>>>
>>>> We could now assume, that the axis of time would move like a gigantic
>>>> hand of a gigantic clock.
>>>>
>>>> And once this hand passes the event horizon, there pops an new universe
>>>> out of nowhere, in a big bang.
>>>>
>>>> And now we could also assume, these universes exist at the same time and
>>>> kind of fold back into itself.
>>>>
>>>>  From the whole picture we experience only our own part, where time runs
>>>> into one single direction and we see only one universe (ours).
>>>>
>>>> And we are in the centre of it.
>>>>
>>>> But if you travel to the 'edge', you are also in the centre, but of yet
>>>> a different universe.
>>>>
>>>> TH
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I counted fife 'assumes' in there, which is a lot even for a work of
>>> fiction.
>>
>> Yes, but assumptions are a central part of what is called 'scientific
>> method'.
>>
>>   Goes roughly like this:
>>
>> You make up your mind and try to find something, that fits to
>> observations. Now everybody is invited to defeat this assumptions and
>> the hypothesis that survives is promoted to 'theory'.
>
> Actually you've hard the process explained to you many times with enough
> citations and references some in your own native language. You were wrong
> then and then wrong now.
>
> The observation takes place 1st then speculation above how what you
> observed happened, then from that speculation a hypothesis can be formed.
> Then after testing, you may have to revise your hypothesis and retest.
> Eventually you might come up with a theory.
>
> Observation comes 1st.

This depends a little on what kind of field you try to cover.

Theoretical physics on a fundamental level is about things, that cannot 
be observed directly.

You cannot observe things, that are far too small for any known 
instrument. So we have to speculate in this realm and can only use 
imagination and the findings on scales, where things are somehow observable.

If you now try to bring these entities on different scales into one 
single and logical framework, you actually need to guess.

Most of these guesses lead to nothing, so you have to repeat the 
process, until you find something fitting.

My own method was to search for similarities between Relativity and 
Quantum mechanics, while I started at the GR side.

So I tried to find ways, to build particles out of spacetime.

My approach is called 'structured spacetime' and based on a certain type 
of quaternions.

This method seems fitting and is now my assumption (guess, hypothesis).

This I have written down, made quotes and nice illustrations and made it 
publicly available.

So far my work is done and I can wait for replies.



> IIRC Your so called expertise was in engineering. Not physics? Certainly
> not higher mathematics.

Actually I was quite good in mathematics and once won a (small) price.

>>
>> Since this is actually a scientific group about relativity
>> (sci.physics.relativity), you should not be surprised, if someone refers
>> to General Relativity (as I did).
>>
>> But if you like, you can try to disprove, what I have written.
>>
>
> Already done... now go away. You spent far too much money on art work and
> not math.

Something I have little is actually money. So the 'book' is mainly a 'no 
budget project'.

Math of the required type is difficult. But fortunately other authors 
have written about complex four-vectors and Pauli algebra.


>
>> I case you like to learn more about the universe functions, than I can
>> provide my 'book' about a physical concept, which I have developed. That
>> idea is called 'structured spacetime':
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
>
> Don't bother, the presentation is so bad, a high school physics student can
> debunk it.
>

Then feel free to do that.


TH

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