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Re: Atheism is Witchcraft

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Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
> Am 19.09.2016 06:53, schrieb Attila <:

> 
>>>> Who said the solar system was as old as the universe?
>>>> 
>>>> Even you should be embarrassed by this one.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Universe is assumed to be roughly 13.6 billion years old and the
>>> suns age is about 5 billion years (if I recall that correct).
>>> 
>>> But even 13.6 billion years is only the age of OUR universe and this is
>>> what we can see from our position here on Earth.
>>> 
>>> I assume, that 'the universe' is only a subset from something larger.
>>> 
>>> E.g. we could assume a timeline, which points into the opposite
>>> direction, where our future is there the past.
>>> 
>>> This would also create a universe, but we could not see it. Also someone
>>> from there could not see us.
>>> 
>>> Another possibility is a 'universe around the corner'. This would be a
>>> universe, which belongs to an axis of time, that had an angle towards
>>> our axis of time.
>>> 
>>> This would also be invisible.
>>> 
>>> We could now assume, that the axis of time would move like a gigantic
>>> hand of a gigantic clock.
>>> 
>>> And once this hand passes the event horizon, there pops an new universe
>>> out of nowhere, in a big bang.
>>> 
>>> And now we could also assume, these universes exist at the same time and
>>> kind of fold back into itself.
>>> 
>>> From the whole picture we experience only our own part, where time runs
>>> into one single direction and we see only one universe (ours).
>>> 
>>> And we are in the centre of it.
>>> 
>>> But if you travel to the 'edge', you are also in the centre, but of yet
>>> a different universe.
>>> 
>>> TH
>>> 
>>> 
>> I counted fife 'assumes' in there, which is a lot even for a work of
>> fiction.
> 
> Yes, but assumptions are a central part of what is called 'scientific 
> method'.
> 
>  Goes roughly like this:
> 
> You make up your mind and try to find something, that fits to 
> observations. Now everybody is invited to defeat this assumptions and 
> the hypothesis that survives is promoted to 'theory'.

Actually you've hard the process explained to you many times with enough
citations and references some in your own native language. You were wrong
then and then wrong now.

The observation takes place 1st then speculation above how what you
observed happened, then from that speculation a hypothesis can be formed.
Then after testing, you may have to revise your hypothesis and retest.
Eventually you might come up with a theory.

Observation comes 1st. 

IIRC Your so called expertise was in engineering. Not physics? Certainly
not higher mathematics.


> 
> Since this is actually a scientific group about relativity 
> (sci.physics.relativity), you should not be surprised, if someone refers 
> to General Relativity (as I did).
> 
> But if you like, you can try to disprove, what I have written.
> 

Already done... now go away. You spent far too much money on art work and
not math.

> I case you like to learn more about the universe functions, than I can 
> provide my 'book' about a physical concept, which I have developed. That 
> idea is called 'structured spacetime':
> 
> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6

Don't bother, the presentation is so bad, a high school physics student can
debunk it.


Thomas Cleese was talking about you in this video.. go watch it.



-- 
Dunning's work explained in clear, concise and simple terms. 
 John Cleese on Stupidity  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvVPdyYeaQU

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        Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 03:46 +0200
          Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 00:53 -0400
            Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-19 08:15 +0200
              Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-19 15:43 -0400
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                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-24 22:06 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Smiler <smiler@jo.king> - 2016-09-25 00:36 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2016-09-25 05:18 -0400
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                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-26 07:35 +0200
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Bob Officer <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-09-26 15:53 +0000
                Re: Atheism is Witchcraft Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-09-27 06:27 +0200
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