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Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Why would iOS be safer from spying than a well setup Android phone?
Date	2016-08-14 17:56 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<e1bpnaFink7U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2016-08-14, Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> wrote:
> On 10 Aug 2016 17:43:15 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Your idiotic Christmas tree layout is fucking ugly; you should be
>> embarrassed.
>
> I originally had a circle, with the phone in the center, and the apps
> ringed around it in two concentric circles, most important apps and folders
> in the inside.
>
> But I like the pyramid because it's the universal building block with the
> most-often used apps on top.

Both are equally ugly, I'm sure. No thanks. No need for such nonsense.
All of my apps are easily found on a single page.

> Let's see what *your* desktop looks like.

Unlike you, I don't feel I have anything to prove to the world, much
less an established Apple-hating troll. If you weren't so preoccupied
with trolling, you would realize I've already posted screen shots of my
desktop here several times recently. Not that I care what you think.
  
>> No need to try it, and wouldn't want something that fugly anyway. 
>
> There are so many things you "just can't do" on the more primitive iOS.
> One of them is the ability to put app icons anywhere you like. 

Unlike you, I am perfectly able to find each app on my phone with one or
two taps, and without silly Christmas tree or magical orb icon
arrangements. So this supposed "inability" means exactly nothing to me.

> That's like being stuck in the stone age of desktop guis.

iOS isn't a desktop OS, and a mobile device isn't a desktop computer.

BTW, you're one to talk about stone age - you're still futzing around
with manual Bluetooth file transfers and running FTP servers on your
mobile devices just to transfer files, which is silly, inconvenient, and
slow in this day and age. While you are futzing around, the rest of us
are already out the door. 

> Another thing you can't do on the primitive iOS is put apps icons in
> multiple places. Again, you're stuck in the stone age.

Just because you are so disorganized you need to plaster duplicate app
icons all over the place doesn't mean the rest of us are. While you
spread your app icons all over the place, the rest of us find everything
on our iOS devices with ease. Note the distinct lack of any threads in
the iOS news groups asking for help with finding apps. The fact that the
*only* one making complaints here about not being able to find apps is
*you*, the resident Apple-hating troll, says it all.

> And, another thing you have to do in the primitive iOS is build your own
> App Drawer app from scratch.

Unlike you, I don't need or want app drawers. I don't use them on iOS
and I don't use them on Android either. I place each of my apps in
folders according to the purpose of the app, which suits me just fine.
It takes a maximum of two taps to open any app on my device, and for
many, it's one single tap. And it's fine with me if you rely on crutches
like duplicated app icons and app drawers if you *need* them. What I
dislike is when you get stuck without them on iOS and come here to troll
about it.

> Modern operating system launchers have all that, and (far) more.
> On iOS, you "just can't do it".

"BOOHOO, I can't shoot myself in the head with my iOS devices like I can
with my Android devices. Poor mistreated little old me! Apple suxx!!" : D

>> Many people actually like the iOS launcher and find it plenty useful even if
>> it doesn't fit with your idiotic "my way or you suck" rigid world view. 
>
> You see?
> Do you see how you completely missed the point?

The point you refuse to acknowledge is there is absolutely no need for
any of the silly things you claim iOS "can't do" because better things
are available.

> You even see having the ability of any solution as a drawback!
> That's proof positive you're stuck in the primitive one-button-mouse
> mentality!
>
> As a whole, iOS users can think in only single-vector solutions.

Lies and insults are all you've got. And insults are the last resort of
the weak-minded when they feel powerless. Troll on.

>>> How do you completely eliminate the AdID on your primitive non-customizable
>>> iOS?
>> 
>> You haven't shown that you can completely eliminated it on Android. You
>> hid it, and then just gave up.
>
> Heh heh 

Laugh all you want, but it's the truth. Maybe you can't handle the
truth: You hid the ID and then just gave up. You didn't bother to look
to see if the ID is still stored internally on the device. You also
didn't bother to check to see if the ID is being transmitted over the
network. You just hid it and gave up.

> ... I'm trying really hard not to say how stupid you sound in your
> every breath.

And yet you managed to do it in that very breath. Hard fail. Troll on.

> I should be more gentle with you so I will only mention that, as above, we
> can do *everything* you can do, and more. 

Another of your oft-repeated lies. There are *many* things iOS does that
Android can't do. On Android, you can't start editing a document on your
phone, put your phone down, and pick right up where you left off on your
computer without any special configuration before-hand or manual file
transfers etc. On Android, you can't view all the tabs you have open in
a web browser on your computer on your mobile devices with zero
configuration or transfers either. On Android, you can't quickly
transfer content over WiFi speeds between mobile devices and computers
where there is no LAN or internet access with a single tap and with zero
configuration either. On Android, you also can't run apps that are
iOS-first or iOS-only. And those are examples among *many* others.
Your platform trolls are lame. Use the best tool for the job. 

> It's trivial for us to get rid of the AdID. 

Another lie. All you have shown is that you can hide the ID from the
user interface.  You haven't even bothered to verify that the ID isn't
still stored within the device, nor that the ID isn't being transmitted
over the network - you hid it and just gave up.

> You can't do it.

You can't refrain from trolling.

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JR
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