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Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century.

From jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
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Subject Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century.
Date 2015-11-30 01:22 +0000
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Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> Max Keon <msk...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: 
>>> ji...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: 
>> <snip> 
>>
>>>> Kids would quickly loose any interest in command line displays. 
>>> 
>>> I didn't think you would have the audacity to compare that 
>>> "version of BASIC that Microsoft supports and supplies for free", 
>>> with Qbasic. That's Visual Basic taken to its current state of 
>>> evolution, and nobody on this planet could download it and 
>>> understand it without having some prior knowledge of how the 
>>> programming system works. All it is a list of gigantic 
>>> subroutines that can be called upon to perform a variety of 
>>> tasks. But labeling these things as subroutines that can be 
>>> called upon through command line instruction is taboo. They have 
>>> ordinate properties that separate them from the old, and 
>>> apparently useless command line displays. But regardless of how 
>>> a programming system chooses to describe these things, in the 
>>> end, at the processor level it all comes down to simple bit 
>>> manipulation, nothing else. We all end up back in the same place. 
>>
>> Pure drivel. 
>>
>>> How can kids become interested in programming at the basic level 
>>> when the required software has for many years been promoted by 
>>> their peers as being completely useless for programming in the 
>>> modern world. And one would have to be some kind of loser to use 
>>> it. 
>>
>> More drivel. 
> 
> Your arguments are not exactly complelling, are they. 

I am not making arguements, I am making comments on your arguements.

>>> It should always be available and promoted as a stepping stone 
>>> to higher level languages. Why has that experience been taken 
>>> away from the kids, and anyone else who would like to understand 
>>> the basics of computer programming? 
>>
>> Yet more drivel. 
>>
>> For elementry instruction, it is trivial to restrict usage of 
>> features to just those available in Qbasic. 
>>
>> Just because a language has features above and beyond Qbasic does 
>> NOT mean you have to use them in an introductory lesson. 
> 
> Complex software isn't going to be donated at zero cost, and it 
> needs to be freely included in every O/S software package. It's 
> also essential that it be relevant for the required level of 
> expertise. Anyone unfamiliar with computer programming isn't 
> going to be capable of deciphering which of a myriad of 
> programming options is relevant for them. 
> 
> **That should be blatantly obvious.** 

Almost all versions of Linux, just about all compilers, LibreOffice,
OpenOffice, Qucs, Firefox, MySQL and many, many others are complex
softeware and they are all free.

As for "Anyone unfamiliar with computer programming", that is what
the series of books titled xxx For Dummies is for.

> Qbasic can be upgraded to suit modern technology without changing 
> its format. It has a comprehensive help file that's very easy to 
> follow, and the keyword examples can be copy-pasted into the main 
> screen and run. Their function becomes readily apparent when the 
> variables are altered. 

Yet NO ONE is interested in doing it.

>>> My first computer was a Commodore Vic20, and I spent many 
>>> enjoyable hours a day writing programs that would fit into its 
>>> RAM base of only a few thousand bytes. I increased its capacity 
>>> to around 36000 bytes at a cost of $120. My interest then shifted 
>>> to programming at the processor level. But my only access to the 
>>> 6520 microprocessor was via the operating system software stored 
>>> in ROM. The operating system was doing all of the bit 
>>> manipulation as instructed by me via a few access registers. I 
>>> was still one step away from directly accessing the processor. 
>>> And that would always be the case unless I designed the 
>>> operating system software as well. 
>>
>> My first computer (that I owned) was a MITS 8080 kit computer. 
>>
>> The first computer I programmed on was an IBM 360. 
>>
>> Both allowed programming "at the processor level", as has every 
>> computer I have ever seen. 
> 
> It would be a strange programming system if it didn't reach 
> the processor. But that doesn't mean that the pathway to the 
> processor is clearly defined. The pathway is very clearly defined 
> when using DOS based programming systems like, Debug or Symdeb. 
> The user is given direct access to the processor. But they are 
> not at all user friendly, and are not in the same ballpark as 
> Qbasic as a communication tool. 

Babbling gibberish.

<snip remaing irrelevant babble about assembly>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-11 19:50 -0800
  Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 04:22 +0000
    Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 10:05 -0500
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                Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-25 14:13 -0800
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                Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-11-29 16:17 -0800
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                Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Max Keon <mskeon@optusnet.com.au> - 2015-12-05 17:01 -0800
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                Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-11-27 14:06 +0000
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    Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-12 23:34 +0000
      Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-13 05:57 -0500
        Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-13 19:23 +0000
          Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-13 19:53 -0500
  Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-11-19 19:26 -0800
    Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-11-19 19:40 -0800
  Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-11-20 15:57 -0800
    Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 00:30 +0000
      Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-20 21:53 -0500
        Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 07:15 +0000
          Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-21 13:46 -0500
            Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 19:57 +0000
              Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-21 15:50 -0500
                Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-21 22:44 +0000
                Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2015-11-21 22:30 -0500
                Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-22 05:14 +0000
  Re: The Case For Quick Basic In The 21st Century. emptypost@hotmail.com - 2015-11-25 22:57 -0800

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