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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism |
| Subject | Re: Air America! |
| Date | 2016-06-05 19:17 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dri91jFn6ukU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 05/06/2016 18:15, Attila wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 11:46:50 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in > alt.atheism with message-id <drhek5FigrfU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: > >> On 04/06/2016 18:02, Attila wrote: >>> On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 10:44:46 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in >>> alt.atheism with message-id <dremjoF1u1hU1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 03/06/2016 18:57, Attila wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 10:49:00 +1000, "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> in >>>>> alt.atheism with message-id <drc2fsFgdo3U1@mid.individual.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> I agree many of them should be eliminated but they must be earned by >>>>>>> the companies involved and at least the companies are generating >>>>>>> revenue and providing jobs. Welfare payments just disappear and the >>>>>>> economy gains nothing. >>>>>> >>>>>> There is a whole sector of the economy that specialises in catering to >>>>>> welfare recipients ... businesses that create jobs and pay taxes. >>>>> >>>>> There are sectors the cater to anything that has any amount of money, >>>>> including drugs. That does not justify supporting an illegal >>>>> activity. >>>> >>>> Welfare is illegal? >>> >>> Drugs are. Welfare should just be heavily cut back. >> >> Cut back to what? > > Close to zero. In order to make that workable, you'd have to ensure that people do have a chance to succeed. Right now, an American would have a better chance of fulfilling the American Dream for himself and his family by emigrating to Europe. > >> >> You already have one of the stingiest, meanest welfare systems in the >> developed world. > > So what? Look at the economies of those welfare states. I'm looking ... and hot damn, aren't Switzerland, Norway or Germany just the worst hellholes! Failed states, one and all! > >>> >>>> Since when? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> As for payments just disappearing and the economy gaining nothing, that >>>>>> is simply untrue. Money disbursed is being spent, kept in circulation. >>>>>> It may be tax money and it may be spent inefficiently, but it does not >>>>>> disappear. It's actually quite hard to take money out of the economy >>>>>> altogether .... >>>>> >>>>> Not really. Just send it somewhere else. >>>> >>>> Which does not remove it from the economic cycle. >>> >>> It does if it is out of the country. Would you use the same argument >>> to justify illegal drug activity? >> >> It does not. The economic cycle is global these days. > > Not cash sent to some small town in some other country. Remittances to Mexico alone amount to far more than the size of the Mexican oil industry. That makes "cash sent to some small town" a major economic factor, and every single American company that does business south of the border ensures that it remains a part of the economic cycle even back home in the US.
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