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Re: Ransomware

From "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Ransomware
Date 2016-02-24 04:49 +1100
Message-ID <dj3kckFk801U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM00052C5C46DE5C83@aca40f57.ipt.aol.com...
> JimP wrote:
>> On 21 Feb 2016 15:48:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>JimP wrote:
>>>> On 20 Feb 2016 15:18:06 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>JimP wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 14:12:48 +0000, Ibmekon <Ibmekon> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:48:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ibmekon <Ibmekon> writes:
>>>>>>>>>On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:56:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott 
>>>>>>>>>Lurndal)
>>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ibmekon <Ibmekon> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:41:00 -0700, Peter Flass
>>>>>>>>>>><peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>><redacted>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Look at the current Apple vs. FBI dustup.  Apparently the FBI
> expects
>>>>>Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>>to develop code to break the encryption on an iPhone.  I think I
> come
>>>>>down
>>>>>>>>>>>>on the side of privacy, but the other side has some valid 
>>>>>>>>>>>>arguments
>>>>>too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It seems to me that the FBA wish to bring Apple into line with 
>>>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>>policy of scrapping all personal privacy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If Apple argues it is simply impossible to crack the phone - the 
>>>>>>>>>>>FBI
>>>>>>>>>>>will create legislation to make it illegal - citing this case.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If Apple argues it is possible to crack the phone, but very
> difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>and expensive - the FBI will suggest they make it easier on
> themselves
>>>>>>>>>>>in future by installing an "FBI Only" back door.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The FBI doesn't want apple to "crack the phone".  What they want 
>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>for apple to produce a signed firmware image of the IOS operating
>>>>>>>>>>software with one OS modification, such that it doesn't zap the
>>>>>decryption
>>>>>>>>>>key after 10 invalid PIN's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Once the image is installed, the FBI can brute force the PIN.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>And probably find zilch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Tim Cook, Apple CEO
>>>>>>>>>"We have great respect for the professionals at the FBI, and we
>>>>>>>>>believe their intentions are good. Up to this point, we have done
>>>>>>>>>everything that is both within our power and within the law to help
>>>>>>>>>them. But now the U.S. government has asked us for something we 
>>>>>>>>>simply
>>>>>>>>>do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create. 
>>>>>>>>>They
>>>>>>>>>have asked us to build a backdoor to the iPhone."
>>>>>>>>>http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/17/tim-cook-apple-wont-create-backdoor-t
> o-
>>>un
>>>>>lock-san-bernardino-attackers-iphone/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He's using hyperbole, of course.
>>>>>>>Well,
>>>>>>>Did the FBI make any request regarding future access to a locked
>>>>>>>iphone ?
>>>>>>>If not, Cook is flat out lying.
>>>>>>>If they did, was it as represented by Cook - ie the ability for the
>>>>>>>FBI to access data in anyones iphone  - aka backdoor.
>>>>>>>If not - it is open the the FBI correct what Cook stated.
>>>>>>>I believe Cook.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Carl Goldsworthy
>>>>>>>...
>>>>>>>In a "zero sum game" there are no winners.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't believe either of them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course; they're in the throes of a lawsuit.  However, consider
>>>>>the virus which wrecked Iran's centrifuges.  It was designed to
>>>>>apply to only that one site but is now out in the world.  Any
>>>>>software which Apple develops and hands to the FBI or NSA to
>>>>>crack any security will be out on the web and getting used
>>>>>by the very people the FBI/NSA want to stop.
>>>>>
>>>>>A general cracking mechanism should not be given out.  It will
>>>>>happen soon enough.  The FBI can use the technique described
>>>>>in this newsgroup to access the data on that, and only that,
>>>>>particular phone.
>>>>>
>>>>>people are using their phones to manage all of their assets.
>>>>>if the method of cracking into the phone is availabe, all
>>>>>of their wealth can be transferred to some entity--a terrorism
>>>>>group or government.
>>>>>
>>>>>/BAH
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who does bank or other money transactions on an unsecure device
>>>> like a telephone is a fool that is going to be bitten and then feel a
>>>> great amount of shock.
>>>
>>>If cracking code is produced, noone will be able to tell if their device
>>>is secure.  So far, only Apple's marketing assures security.  If they
>>>have to provide a general cracking code to law enforcement, noone's
>>>phone is secure.
>>>
>>>I understand your thinking and I would agree except this is not
>>>about accessing that one phone.  The Apple vs FBI lawsuits have
>>>to do with making every phone accessible.
>>>
>>>
>>>/BAH
>>
>> Thing is, hackers probably already have a means to get into the
>> iPhones inspite of Apple's claims the phones are secure.
>
> That's possible. However, I would not llike to have an Apple
> version roaming around the world available to anyone who
> wants to make a mess.

That can't happen given that the OS has to have been
signed by Apple for it to be able to install on iphones.

Apple currently stops signing older versions of iOS quite
soon after a new one has been released, so that if you
want to return to using an older version after you decide
you don’t like something about the new version, you have
to make that decision within a couple of weeks of trying
the new version. If you wait longer than that, you're stuck
with the new version and can't go back. Apple could do
the same thing with the modified iOS that the FBI wants
to install on that phone and it would then be unusable
by anyone else in a day if they stop signing it that quickly.

> An Apple version wouldn't have bugs

All Apple versions have bugs, just like with any other OS.

> and would have all the intimate knowledge needed to do any
> cracking.

It isnt doing any cracking, it is JUST no longer wiping the data
on the phone if whoever has the phone in their hands supplies
the wrong passcode 10 times in a row. The FBI wants to try and
brute force the passcode by trying all the possibilities etc.

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        Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-17 08:05 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-17 12:03 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-02-17 15:21 +0100
          Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-17 07:38 -0700
          Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 18:07 +0000
            Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:10 -0600
              Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:34 +0000
        Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:06 -0600
    Re: Ransomware Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-16 12:49 -0800
      Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-16 16:55 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-16 17:31 -0600
      Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 16:11 -0800
      Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:26 +1100
      Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:19 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-17 12:05 -0600
          Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 17:58 -0600
            Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:41 -0700
              Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 18:39 -0800
  Re: Ransomware Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-16 16:44 -0400
    Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-16 15:30 -0600
      Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 00:20 +0100
        Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:03 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-17 18:48 -0500
            Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
              Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@Last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 16:46 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-18 11:06 -0800
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 14:43 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 14:06 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 15:48 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 15:36 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:30 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 19:38 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:43 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-19 00:51 +0100
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:45 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-19 15:00 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:01 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-19 10:16 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 11:15 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 11:19 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 18:55 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 12:54 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-20 17:46 -0800
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:08 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-23 16:01 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 21:24 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:58 +1100
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:40 +0000
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:06 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:11 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:44 +0100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:13 +1100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-19 17:08 +0100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:41 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 09:35 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-21 10:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 16:48 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-21 18:40 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 01:53 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 18:36 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 00:12 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 09:37 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 09:17 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 15:29 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 09:42 -0500
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 15:52 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 10:23 -0500
                Re: Ransomware using libc scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-22 17:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 20:29 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-22 19:38 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 21:31 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:17 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 14:41 -0600
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 22:07 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-22 09:16 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 17:21 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-22 09:34 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 11:11 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 18:25 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:15 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 22:28 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 21:46 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:05 +1100
              Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:31 +1100
              Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-18 13:56 -0600
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:16 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-19 17:09 -0600
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:55 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-20 19:56 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-22 14:07 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 07:15 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 18:30 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-23 01:49 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:09 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:03 +1100
          Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 13:12 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:29 -0500
          Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 13:35 -0600
            Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-20 09:55 +0000
              Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 07:30 -0700
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 11:11 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 04:05 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 11:55 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 14:04 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 13:57 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-21 23:28 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:34 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:32 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-21 12:14 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:47 +1100
      Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 14:03 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-17 15:20 -0600
          Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 21:31 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-18 08:23 +0000
            Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-18 11:42 -0600
      Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:23 -0500
        Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-18 11:43 -0600
          Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:48 -0500
    Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 17:04 -0800
      Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:42 +1100
      Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 04:17 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-17 04:08 -0400
          Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:04 +0000
        Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:38 -0500
          Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 13:38 +0100
            Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:57 -0500
    Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:24 +1100
    Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:03 +0000
      Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 16:43 -0800
      Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
    Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 12:55 -0600

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