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Re: Ransomware

From	"hgww" <hgww@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: Ransomware
Date	2016-02-22 07:53 +1100
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"JimP" <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On 21 Feb 2016 15:48:24 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>JimP wrote:
>>> On 20 Feb 2016 15:18:06 GMT, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>JimP wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 14:12:48 +0000, Ibmekon <Ibmekon> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 13:48:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ibmekon <Ibmekon> writes:
>>>>>>>>On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 20:56:09 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott 
>>>>>>>>Lurndal)
>>>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ibmekon <Ibmekon> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:41:00 -0700, Peter Flass
>>>>>>>>>><peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>><redacted>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Look at the current Apple vs. FBI dustup.  Apparently the FBI 
>>>>>>>>>>>expects
>>>>Apple
>>>>>>>>>>>to develop code to break the encryption on an iPhone.  I think I 
>>>>>>>>>>>come
>>>>down
>>>>>>>>>>>on the side of privacy, but the other side has some valid 
>>>>>>>>>>>arguments
>>>>too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It seems to me that the FBA wish to bring Apple into line with 
>>>>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>>>>policy of scrapping all personal privacy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If Apple argues it is simply impossible to crack the phone - the 
>>>>>>>>>>FBI
>>>>>>>>>>will create legislation to make it illegal - citing this case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If Apple argues it is possible to crack the phone, but very 
>>>>>>>>>>difficult
>>>>>>>>>>and expensive - the FBI will suggest they make it easier on 
>>>>>>>>>>themselves
>>>>>>>>>>in future by installing an "FBI Only" back door.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The FBI doesn't want apple to "crack the phone".  What they want is
>>>>>>>>>for apple to produce a signed firmware image of the IOS operating
>>>>>>>>>software with one OS modification, such that it doesn't zap the
>>>>decryption
>>>>>>>>>key after 10 invalid PIN's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Once the image is installed, the FBI can brute force the PIN.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And probably find zilch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Tim Cook, Apple CEO
>>>>>>>>"We have great respect for the professionals at the FBI, and we
>>>>>>>>believe their intentions are good. Up to this point, we have done
>>>>>>>>everything that is both within our power and within the law to help
>>>>>>>>them. But now the U.S. government has asked us for something we 
>>>>>>>>simply
>>>>>>>>do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create. They
>>>>>>>>have asked us to build a backdoor to the iPhone."
>>>>>>>>http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/17/tim-cook-apple-wont-create-backdoor-to-
>>un
>>>>lock-san-bernardino-attackers-iphone/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's using hyperbole, of course.
>>>>>>Well,
>>>>>>Did the FBI make any request regarding future access to a locked
>>>>>>iphone ?
>>>>>>If not, Cook is flat out lying.
>>>>>>If they did, was it as represented by Cook - ie the ability for the
>>>>>>FBI to access data in anyones iphone  - aka backdoor.
>>>>>>If not - it is open the the FBI correct what Cook stated.
>>>>>>I believe Cook.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Carl Goldsworthy
>>>>>>...
>>>>>>In a "zero sum game" there are no winners.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't believe either of them.
>>>>
>>>>Of course; they're in the throes of a lawsuit.  However, consider
>>>>the virus which wrecked Iran's centrifuges.  It was designed to
>>>>apply to only that one site but is now out in the world.  Any
>>>>software which Apple develops and hands to the FBI or NSA to
>>>>crack any security will be out on the web and getting used
>>>>by the very people the FBI/NSA want to stop.
>>>>
>>>>A general cracking mechanism should not be given out.  It will
>>>>happen soon enough.  The FBI can use the technique described
>>>>in this newsgroup to access the data on that, and only that,
>>>>particular phone.
>>>>
>>>>people are using their phones to manage all of their assets.
>>>>if the method of cracking into the phone is availabe, all
>>>>of their wealth can be transferred to some entity--a terrorism
>>>>group or government.
>>>>
>>>>/BAH
>>>
>>> Anyone who does bank or other money transactions on an unsecure device
>>> like a telephone is a fool that is going to be bitten and then feel a
>>> great amount of shock.
>>
>>If cracking code is produced, noone will be able to tell if their device
>>is secure.  So far, only Apple's marketing assures security.  If they
>>have to provide a general cracking code to law enforcement, noone's
>>phone is secure.
>>
>>I understand your thinking and I would agree except this is not
>>about accessing that one phone.  The Apple vs FBI lawsuits have
>>to do with making every phone accessible.

> Thing is, hackers probably already have a means to get into the
> iPhones

No they don't. The most they can do is guess the most
insecure PINs or use the iphones that are never locked at all.

> inspite of Apple's claims the phones are secure.

It isnt a claim, it's a fact if you bother to
do the most basic securing of your iphone.

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Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-16 10:37 -0600
  Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 09:54 -0800
    Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-16 19:41 +0100
      Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-16 21:11 +0100
        Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-17 02:16 +0100
        Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 22:05 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 23:35 +0100
            Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:41 -0700
      Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-16 18:52 -0700
      Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:13 +1100
        Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-17 04:53 +0100
          Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 04:21 +0000
          Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 17:24 +1100
            Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 15:07 +0100
              Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:02 +0000
      Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-17 08:03 +0000
        Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:02 +0000
    Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-17 08:01 +0000
      Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 18:07 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-17 14:01 -0500
          Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:41 -0700
            Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 18:09 -0800
              Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-17 20:45 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-17 22:34 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 11:16 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:44 +1100
              Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 15:00 +1100
            Re: Ransomware Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-18 02:12 +0000
            Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-17 22:47 -0500
              Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 15:10 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 21:29 -0800
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:56 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 23:15 -0800
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 18:35 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-18 17:58 -0800
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 13:44 +1100
            Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-17 20:44 -0800
              Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-18 08:03 -0600
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:14 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-18 19:10 -0600
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-18 20:13 -0800
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:26 +1100
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:34 -0600
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 16:26 +0000
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 14:58 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-19 18:21 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 18:43 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-19 23:32 -0500
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:34 -0800
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 19:59 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 07:25 -0500
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:30 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-20 10:58 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 04:25 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-20 19:56 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 13:26 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 04:16 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 13:22 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-19 17:36 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:01 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-20 16:26 -0800
                Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-21 13:52 -0800
                Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-21 18:51 -0500
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:18 -0800
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 15:03 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-20 16:12 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 15:59 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 09:59 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-19 18:43 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 14:36 +1100
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 17:01 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 18:54 -0600
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 19:48 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-20 16:20 -0600
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 18:17 -0600
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:53 -0800
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 18:43 -0700
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 21:33 -0500
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:23 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 14:48 +1100
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:56 -0800
                Re: Ransomware Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-19 23:18 -0500
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:35 -0600
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:12 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-20 15:33 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:11 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 18:43 -0700
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 20:00 -0800
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 01:51 -0700
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:34 -0600
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:19 -0600
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 19:40 -0800
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:46 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-18 23:55 -0600
                Re: Ransomware mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-19 10:48 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:56 -0500
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:50 -0600
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 16:29 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-19 16:54 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 17:55 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-20 08:30 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-20 15:29 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-20 10:06 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-20 11:03 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 16:14 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 16:27 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 09:49 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:29 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 18:53 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 09:42 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 -0500
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 14:58 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:24 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:53 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 18:15 +0000
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 17:55 -0800
              Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-18 11:19 -0500
              Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 10:19 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-18 11:46 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-18 18:01 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-18 14:36 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 11:23 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-19 09:28 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:19 +1100
              Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-18 11:06 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 10:24 -0700
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-18 12:27 -0800
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:22 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-19 00:07 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 18:34 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:41 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-19 07:43 -0600
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 16:13 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-19 08:01 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:50 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:34 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-18 13:34 -0600
              Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:34 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:33 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 21:04 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 13:46 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:34 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:47 +1100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
            Re: Ransomware Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-18 11:03 -0500
            Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-18 19:21 +0000
              Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-18 20:56 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-18 21:19 +0000
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:48 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-19 14:12 +0000
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 09:54 -0600
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:29 +1100
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 10:42 -0600
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-21 15:48 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:43 +1100
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 12:55 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:53 +1100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-23 13:13 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-24 04:49 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-21 19:56 +0000
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 16:19 +0000
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 18:08 -0800
                Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-19 18:18 -0800
                Re: Ransomware mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-19 18:10 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-19 21:43 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 09:52 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-19 16:53 -0800
              Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 18:37 -0600
          Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
            Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:32 +1100
    Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:13 -0600
  Re: Ransomware Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-16 17:57 +0000
    Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-16 14:19 -0600
      Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 03:42 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-17 08:05 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-17 12:03 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-02-17 15:21 +0100
          Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-17 07:38 -0700
          Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 18:07 +0000
            Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:10 -0600
              Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:34 +0000
        Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:06 -0600
    Re: Ransomware Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-16 12:49 -0800
      Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-16 16:55 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-16 17:31 -0600
      Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 16:11 -0800
      Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:26 +1100
      Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:19 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-17 12:05 -0600
          Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 17:58 -0600
            Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:41 -0700
              Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 18:39 -0800
  Re: Ransomware Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-16 16:44 -0400
    Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-16 15:30 -0600
      Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 00:20 +0100
        Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:03 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-17 18:48 -0500
            Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
              Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@Last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 16:46 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-18 11:06 -0800
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 14:43 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 14:06 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 15:48 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 15:36 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:30 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 19:38 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:43 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-19 00:51 +0100
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:45 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-19 15:00 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:01 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-19 10:16 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 11:15 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 11:19 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 18:55 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 12:54 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-20 17:46 -0800
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:08 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-23 16:01 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 21:24 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:58 +1100
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:40 +0000
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:06 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:11 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:44 +0100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:13 +1100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-19 17:08 +0100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:41 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 09:35 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-21 10:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 16:48 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-21 18:40 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 01:53 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 18:36 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 00:12 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 09:37 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 09:17 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 15:29 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 09:42 -0500
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 15:52 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 10:23 -0500
                Re: Ransomware using libc scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-22 17:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 20:29 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-22 19:38 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 21:31 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:17 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 14:41 -0600
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 22:07 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-22 09:16 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 17:21 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-22 09:34 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 11:11 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 18:25 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:15 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 22:28 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 21:46 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:05 +1100
              Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:31 +1100
              Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-18 13:56 -0600
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:16 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-19 17:09 -0600
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:55 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-20 19:56 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-22 14:07 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 07:15 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 18:30 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-23 01:49 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:09 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:03 +1100
          Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 13:12 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:29 -0500
          Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 13:35 -0600
            Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-20 09:55 +0000
              Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 07:30 -0700
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 11:11 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 04:05 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 11:55 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 14:04 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 13:57 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-21 23:28 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:34 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:32 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-21 12:14 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:47 +1100
      Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 14:03 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-17 15:20 -0600
          Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 21:31 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-18 08:23 +0000
            Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-18 11:42 -0600
      Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:23 -0500
        Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-18 11:43 -0600
          Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:48 -0500
    Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 17:04 -0800
      Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:42 +1100
      Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 04:17 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-17 04:08 -0400
          Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:04 +0000
        Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:38 -0500
          Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 13:38 +0100
            Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:57 -0500
    Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:24 +1100
    Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:03 +0000
      Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 16:43 -0800
      Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
    Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 12:55 -0600

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