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Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe
Date 2015-12-09 07:20 +0100
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Am 09.12.2015 04:27, schrieb Sam Wormley:

>> I mean normal to the edge, but normal to the other side. Very few in
>> Relativity are thinking at this shocking truth.
>
> There is no edge as is shown by these first two links:
>
> No Center
> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html
> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html
>
> Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial
> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm
> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html
> http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html
>
> WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory
> http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html
>
> WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology
> http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html
>
I assume, that any object defines the centre of the universe by simply 
being somewhere.

So: I am here and that is the centre (of MY universe).

Since there are many objects, there are many centres and many universes.

This 'self-centred' view seems kind of strange, but is actually what we 
observe.

The universe we see looks precisely like the Earth would be right in the 
middle.

Since the place of Earth is not that special, we must assume, this 
observation would be valid in any other possible location.

So: you cannot reach the edge, since the universe would change if you 
try to get there.

This is quite similar to the horizon, if you travel with a ship. The 
'edge' is than the horizon, which is receding if you try to reach it.



TH

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There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-08 10:23 -0800
  There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 10:51 -0800
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 13:04 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:17 +0000
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        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:57 +0000
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-08 19:15 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:27 -0600
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-09 07:20 +0100
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              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:41 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 08:48 -0800
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