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Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe

Message-ID <566FC8EA.DD6@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
Date 2015-12-15 00:01 -0800
From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups alt.astronomy, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe
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The Starmaker wrote:
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> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "There Is No Edge To The Universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > How many times have you heard that?
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems...
> > > > > there is a small group of people..
> > > > > in the 'scientific community'..
> > > > > there is this ..belief or opinion, that
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > They, go as far as telling everyone
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > They will get together
> > > > > and come up with
> > > > > all kinds of explanations,
> > > > > and numbers, to Why and How
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > It's like a mantra.
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe"
> > > > >
> > > > > And if you disagree with them...
> > > > > they will have you shot!
> > > > >
> > > > > So, why the mantra?
> > > > >
> > > > > Who discovered that there
> > > > > is no edge to the universe?
> > > > >
> > > > > Did they send Columbus to look??
> > > > >
> > > > > They will have you believe that
> > > > > the universe is infinite. That is just
> > > > > a ploy to have you believe...
> > > > > "There is no edge to the universe".
> > > > >
> > > > > Get it? It's a con!
> > > > >
> > > > > con
> > > > > kän/
> > > > >
> > > > >     1.
> > > > >     persuade (someone) to do or believe something, typically by use of a deception.
> > > > >
> > > > > noun
> > > > > noun: con; plural noun: cons
> > > > >
> > > > >     1.
> > > > >     an instance of deceiving or tricking someone.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Question of course is...what is behind these people
> > > > > from trying to convince everyone that
> > > > >  there is no edge to the universe?
> > > > >
> > > > > Why are they  trying to deceive you?
> > > > >
> > > > > The truth is, they don't even want you to question it.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > > the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > Keep in mind...
> > > > that the question is not,
> > > > whether or not
> > > > there is an edge
> > > > to the universe..
> > > >
> > > > the question is,
> > > > Why the insistence
> > > > by the 'scientific community' that
> > > > "There is no edge to the universe"?
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > > the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > ...i don't want to go off topic but...
> > > it goes the same mantra for "There Is No Center To The Universe"
> > >
> > > not like if there is a human today capable of figuring out how to see the center....
> > > tools not yet invented...but it's a con neverless to say ...There Is No Center To The Universe
> > >
> > > or There Is No Edge To The Universe.
> > >
> > > The tradgey is that there are proffesors teaching this stuff to kids today.
> > >
> > >  the question is...
> > >  Why the insistence
> > >  by the 'scientific community'
> > > to tell everyone..
> > >  "There is no edge to the universe"?
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > >  The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > I'll tell you Why...
> >
> > it is a pattern with 'these people', (the 'scientific community')
> >
> > When they say..."There is no...."
> >
> > it means you are not suppose to question it any further.
> >
> > When they say "There Is No Edge To The Universe"..
> >
> > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is an edge.
> >
> > If they say "There is no Before."
> >
> > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a before.
> >
> > If they say "There Is No Center To The Universe"..
> >
> > they are saying 'in fact'..don't ask if there is a center of the universe.
> >
> > The truth is...they don't know where the fuck the center is at! They don't even know how to
> > fuckin look for it. They don't have the tools to look for it. And they don't want you to ask anymore.
> >
> > And if you dare ask...they'll fuckin shoot you!
> >
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > the unchallengeable.
> 
> lemme put it differently...
> 
> the 'scientific community' has
> a choice...either to say,
> 
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe"
> 
> or to say
> 
> "There Is An Edge To The Universe"
> 
> if they choose the latter..
> 
> then everybody would be asking...
> 
> "What is on the other side of the edge????"
> 
> To avoid having to answer questions they have no answers too,
> they decided to say...
> 
> "There Is No Edge To The Universe, Motherfucker"!
> 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> the unchallengeable.



Okay...yous seem to be having trouble...picturing
an edge to the universe.

How about...

take the Universe..
the whole Universe..
what I mean is
the entire Universe
and everyhting
that is contain in it.

Everything in the entire
universe that is contained in it.

From top to bottom.

From one edge of the
entire universe to
the other side of the
entire universe.

The whole shabam!

Eveything in it!!

Everything contained in it.


'contained   in    it.'


contained


in

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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 18:52 +0000
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 22:13 +0000
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                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 11:29 -0800
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          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:40 -0600
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:44 +0000
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 10:52 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 17:27 +0000
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 12:37 -0600
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    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-09 11:38 -0600
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 12:13 -0800
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe David Staup <dstaup@charter.net> - 2015-12-10 12:30 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 11:26 -0800
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-10 12:56 -0800
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      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-09 12:07 -0800
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            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-15 08:44 -0600
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 05:53 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:59 -0600
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-15 22:44 -0800
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 08:38 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 16:07 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-16 18:45 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 15:00 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 15:13 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 18:30 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 17:45 -0800
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:47 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-09 16:40 +0000
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-09 12:26 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2015-12-09 18:03 -0800
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 09:52 -0600
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-10 16:01 +0000
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe trudi.schwander@gmail.com - 2015-12-10 12:03 -0800
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-10 13:11 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-10 15:38 -0600
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Double-A <double-a3@hush.com> - 2015-12-11 14:04 -0800
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 10:59 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 13:16 -0600
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 13:27 -0800
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 17:06 -0800
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 22:58 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 12:16 -0800
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-12 20:05 -0500
            Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 04:10 -0800
              Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 12:55 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 15:06 -0600
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-13 13:58 -0800
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 00:25 -0500
                Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-14 00:23 -0500
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-12-11 20:28 -0500
  Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:24 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 09:27 -0800
    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 11:32 -0600
      Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe "reber g=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 10:41 -0800
        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-17 12:43 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-12-17 16:11 -0800
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