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Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe
Date 2015-12-09 22:15 +0100
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Am 09.12.2015 20:01, schrieb Sam Wormley:

>> There are things which cannot be visualised, but yet fully
>> understandable only.
>
> Actually the expansion of space has been observed and measured.
> A good value for the expansion of space is 67.80 ± 0.9 km/sec/Mpc

The measure for distance  'Mpc' means  3 261 563 lightyears.

The centre of this measurement is actually planet Earth. This means: the 
universe seems to expand around us.

Since this is the case for the Earth, it would be the case at any other 
location.

Only: this would not allow the same 'big-bang' for every possible observer.

>  > The Big Bang Model is supported by a number of important
>  > observations, each of which are described in more detail on separate
>  > pages:
>
>  > 1. The expansion of the universe:
>  > Edwin Hubble's 1929 observation that galaxies were generally
>  > receding from us provided the first clue that the Big Bang theory
>  > might be right.
>
>  > 2. The abundance of the light elements H, He, Li:
>  > The Big Bang theory predicts that these light elements should have
>  > been fused from protons and neutrons in the first few minutes after
>  > the Big Bang.
>
>  > 3. The cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation:
>  > The early universe should have been very hot. The cosmic microwave
>  > background radiation is the remnant heat leftover from the Big Bang.


I assume, that CMBR is produced 'real time' and in close proximity to 
Earth and has nothing to do with big-bang.

>
>  > These three measurable signatures strongly support the notion that
>  > the universe evolved from a dense, nearly featureless hot gas, just
>  > as the Big Bang model predicts.


The big-bang looks quite like a 'white hole'.  A white hole is a black 
hole, but seen from the 'other side'. (Or: a black hole time reverted.)


TH

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  There Is No Edge To The Universe HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 10:51 -0800
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    Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:17 +0000
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        Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Plexippus Kritikos <plexik@laertesegidio.org> - 2015-12-08 22:57 +0000
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe gilber34 <fafa@invalid.com> - 2015-12-08 19:15 -0600
          Re: There Is No Edge To The Universe Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-12-08 21:27 -0600
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