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Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share

From	Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share
Date	2015-09-04 20:33 +0000
Message-ID	<d4udg9F1834U5@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:21:40 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:11:26 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 12:58:13 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>> > On 9/4/15, 12:50 PM, in article d4ub00FiqsU2@mid.individual.net,
>> > "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>>> <http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tuition-
>> housing-
>> >> cpi1.
>> >>>> jpg> OR <http://goo.gl/SlnFhr>
>> >>>> ...
>> >>> 
>> >>> If you exclude those who can't afford it from getting a higher
>> >>> education then you're essentially saying that only those from
>> >>> fairly wealthy families where the parents are well-educated can get
>> >>> into University. Genetically and socially, they are already a lot
>> >>> more intelligent than the absolute _everyone_ who can study here.
>> >>> 
>> >>> We're a lot more fair, you're a lot more exclusive whether anyone
>> >>> likes it or not. In the end, our general population is more
>> >>> educated as a result of how accessible it still is.
>> >> 
>> >> While being a bit better off financially makes it easier to afford
>> >> higher education here, it is not all that difficult for those of
>> >> lesser means. Loans and grants are all over the place to help, and
>> >> there are many that also work their way through college.  It isn't a
>> >> lack of money that keeps some from doing it, it is more a lack of
>> >> fortitude and willingness to explore all the options.
>> > 
>> > And the fact the costs keep going up much faster than inflation.
>> > 
>> > How long ago did you pay for school? My first degree was in the 1990s
>> > and I paid for it with few grants (got one for one semester) and no
>> > other assistance. I worked my way through it.
> 
> Pull the other one.
> 
>> > Now a college student coming out of high school would find that MUCH
>> > harder. It is insane.
>> 
>> I used the Vietnam era GI Bill.
>> 
>> But today isn't insane, it just requires more work to obtain the funds.
>> I have yet to see anyone that wanted to go to college not get there
>> because of money.  Usually the ones that don't, don't have enough fire
>> in their belly.
> 
> And they don't because they've gotten used to having so much just handed
> to them. You might notice that Snit has complained about rising
> education costs and low teacher pay, like the two are mutually
> exclusive. The reality is what you're saying it is, for too many, there
> is a lack of drive to attend college. If you want 'The State' to pay for
> everything, it's going to cost you dearly, ask Greece. If you want
> someone who will value an education and use it to do more than troll
> usenet with, make them pay for it.

When I was recruiting for the Navy the emphasis was on high school 
graduates and not GEDs or dropouts.  Not because they were smarter or 
even really more educated, but because it was a good indicator of 
willingness to complete a task ahead of them.

I see jobs for electronics techs that require a degree.  Utter hogwash, a 
tech doesn't need a degree he/she needs a technical certificate and will 
be more than qualified for an entry level tech job.  He/she can learn the 
rest during the rest of their work years.




-- 
Lloyd

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Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 03:00 +0200
  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:35 +0000
    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 09:11 -0400
      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 14:52 +0000
        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 16:53 +0200
        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 11:43 -0400
          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 17:53 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:59 +0000
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:07 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:10 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:16 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:20 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:24 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 19:17 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 11:21 -0500
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 16:36 +0000
          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:56 +0000
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:05 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-02 20:46 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-03 15:53 +0200
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0500
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 10:24 -0400
                DumFSck's idiocy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:40 -0500
                Re: DumFSck's idiocy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:02 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-03 12:28 -0600
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-04 00:24 +0200
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:09 -0400
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:22 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 17:45 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:03 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:17 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 13:35 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 15:25 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:55 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-03 09:31 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:42 +0000
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0400
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:39 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:04 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:52 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 17:02 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 17:00 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 20:56 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 08:53 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:20 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 07:39 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:49 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 08:55 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:19 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:57 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:03 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 15:44 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:50 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:11 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:17 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:27 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Hoppy Hopkins <hopster86u4me@surferb.net> - 2015-09-04 18:28 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:21 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:33 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:46 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:49 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:34 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:37 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 20:18 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 17:40 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:18 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:53 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 10:21 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:09 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:46 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:54 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:05 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share hifye <hifye@humanoid.net> - 2015-09-05 11:58 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:10 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:02 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:20 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:00 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-09-05 13:51 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:12 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:11 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:20 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:24 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:30 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:36 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:28 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:38 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:49 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 14:00 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:56 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 16:29 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:35 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:24 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:42 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:43 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:17 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:50 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:51 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 10:12 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 11:24 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:09 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:57 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:28 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 05:16 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 10:26 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-09-10 11:38 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 12:02 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 09:16 -0700
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 14:53 -0400
  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 18:46 -0700

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