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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share |
| Date | 2015-09-04 20:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d4ud55F1834U3@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (17 earlier) <mscs7k$9l7$1@dont-email.me> <d4ub00FiqsU2@mid.individual.net> <D20F45E5.59F23%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <d4uc7bF1834U1@mid.individual.net> <D20F4A6B.59F28%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:17:31 -0700, Snit wrote: > On 9/4/15, 1:11 PM, in article d4uc7bF1834U1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd > Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 12:58:13 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> On 9/4/15, 12:50 PM, in article d4ub00FiqsU2@mid.individual.net, >>> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> <http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tuition- >> housing- >>>> cpi1. >>>>>> jpg> OR <http://goo.gl/SlnFhr> >>>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> If you exclude those who can't afford it from getting a higher >>>>> education then you're essentially saying that only those from fairly >>>>> wealthy families where the parents are well-educated can get into >>>>> University. Genetically and socially, they are already a lot more >>>>> intelligent than the absolute _everyone_ who can study here. >>>>> >>>>> We're a lot more fair, you're a lot more exclusive whether anyone >>>>> likes it or not. In the end, our general population is more educated >>>>> as a result of how accessible it still is. >>>> >>>> While being a bit better off financially makes it easier to afford >>>> higher education here, it is not all that difficult for those of >>>> lesser means. Loans and grants are all over the place to help, and >>>> there are many that also work their way through college. It isn't a >>>> lack of money that keeps some from doing it, it is more a lack of >>>> fortitude and willingness to explore all the options. >>> >>> And the fact the costs keep going up much faster than inflation. >>> >>> How long ago did you pay for school? My first degree was in the 1990s >>> and I paid for it with few grants (got one for one semester) and no >>> other assistance. I worked my way through it. Now a college student >>> coming out of high school would find that MUCH harder. It is insane. >> >> I used the Vietnam era GI Bill. >> >> But today isn't insane, it just requires more work to obtain the funds. > > Not just more work... loans you get stuck with for decades. Choices > which 18 year olds have to make which can leave the stuck in debt for > the next 18 years and more (a lot more). > You mean loans for specious degrees that have no financial viability? For instance, why get a fat loan for a degree in social work which is a very low paying field? Shouldn't be loaning money for that and most assuredly not loaning via guaranteed student loans. Scale loans to fit the field and then tell the colleges that the days of all that free money to them is over. There is little reason for the extremely higher cost for education. If the story is the professors want more money, then hire cheaper professors and let those that want to get rich on campus go into the private sector. >> I have yet to see anyone that wanted to go to college not get there >> because of money. Usually the ones that don't, don't have enough fire >> in their belly. > > What you see is not the question - I am talking about what is. And what > is is that college cost not just a little more than it did for you but a > lot more. Insanely more. > > The government uses students as profit makers instead of treating their > education like the investment in the country that it is. Bullshit! The government is not the one making the fat profits off these loans. It is the schools, especially the more specious ones and the banks making the loans without any incentive for them to be more selective in which degrees they will loan whatever amount. -- Lloyd
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Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 03:00 +0200
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:35 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 09:11 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 14:52 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 16:53 +0200
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 11:43 -0400
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Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:59 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:07 +0200
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:10 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:16 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:20 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:24 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 19:17 +0200
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 11:21 -0500
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 16:36 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:56 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:05 +0200
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-02 20:46 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-03 15:53 +0200
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0500
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 10:24 -0400
DumFSck's idiocy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:40 -0500
Re: DumFSck's idiocy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:02 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-03 12:28 -0600
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-04 00:24 +0200
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:09 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:22 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 17:45 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:03 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:17 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 13:35 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:42 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 15:25 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:55 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-03 09:31 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:42 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:39 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:04 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:52 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 17:02 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 17:00 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 20:56 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 08:53 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:20 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 07:39 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:49 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 08:55 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:19 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:11 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:57 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:03 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 15:44 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:50 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:11 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:17 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:27 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Hoppy Hopkins <hopster86u4me@surferb.net> - 2015-09-04 18:28 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:21 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:33 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:46 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:49 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:34 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:37 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 20:18 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 17:40 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:18 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:53 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:11 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 10:21 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:09 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:42 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:46 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:54 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:05 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share hifye <hifye@humanoid.net> - 2015-09-05 11:58 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:10 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:02 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:20 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:00 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-09-05 13:51 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:12 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:11 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:20 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:24 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:30 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:36 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:28 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:38 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:49 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 14:00 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:56 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 16:29 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:35 +0000
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:24 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:42 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:43 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:17 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:50 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:51 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 10:12 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 11:24 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:09 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:57 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:28 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 05:16 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 10:26 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-09-10 11:38 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 12:02 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 09:16 -0700
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 14:53 -0400
Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 18:46 -0700
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