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Better breakdown of OS/browser share

Started byMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
First post2015-09-02 03:00 +0200
Last post2015-09-01 18:46 -0700
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  Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 03:00 +0200
    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:35 +0000
      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 09:11 -0400
        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 14:52 +0000
          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 16:53 +0200
          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 11:43 -0400
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 17:53 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:59 +0000
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:07 +0200
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:10 -0400
                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:16 +0000
                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:20 -0400
                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:24 +0000
                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 19:17 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-02 11:21 -0500
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 16:36 +0000
            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 15:56 +0000
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-02 18:05 +0200
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-02 20:46 -0400
                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0400
                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-03 15:53 +0200
                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:08 -0500
                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 10:24 -0400
                      DumFSck's idiocy chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-03 09:40 -0500
                        Re: DumFSck's idiocy Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:02 +0000
                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-03 12:28 -0600
                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-04 00:24 +0200
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 13:09 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 17:22 +0000
                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-02 17:45 -0400
                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 10:03 +0000
                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 09:17 -0400
                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 13:35 +0000
                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:42 -0400
                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-03 15:25 +0000
                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:55 -0400
                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-03 09:31 -0700
                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:42 +0000
              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0400
                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 10:39 -0400
                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:04 +0000
                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 12:52 -0400
                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 17:02 +0000
                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 17:00 -0400
                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-03 20:56 -0400
                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 08:53 -0400
                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:20 -0400
                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 07:39 -0700
                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 10:49 -0400
                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-04 08:55 -0700
                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 09:19 -0700
                                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0400
                                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:11 -0700
                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 12:57 -0400
                                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 10:03 -0700
                                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 15:44 -0400
                                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:50 +0000
                                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:58 -0700
                                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:11 +0000
                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:17 -0700
                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:27 +0000
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Hoppy Hopkins <hopster86u4me@surferb.net> - 2015-09-04 18:28 -0400
                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:21 -0700
                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:33 +0000
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:46 -0700
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:49 -0700
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:34 -0700
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 16:37 -0700
                                                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-04 20:18 -0400
                                                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 17:40 -0700
                                                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:18 -0400
                                                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:53 -0400
                                                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:11 -0700
                                                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 10:21 -0400
                                                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:42 -0400
                                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 08:46 -0700
                                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-09-05 11:54 -0400
                                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:05 -0400
                                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share hifye <hifye@humanoid.net> - 2015-09-05 11:58 -0400
                                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 11:10 -0700
                                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:02 -0400
                                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:00 -0400
                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-09-05 13:51 -0700
                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 14:12 -0700
                                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:11 -0700
                                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:20 +0000
                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 13:24 -0700
                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:30 +0000
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:36 -0700
                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:28 -0700
                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:38 +0000
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:49 -0700
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 14:00 -0700
                                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-04 12:56 -0700
                                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 16:29 -0400
                                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:35 +0000
                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:24 -0400
                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:42 -0400
                                            Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 18:43 -0400
                                              Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:17 -0400
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:50 -0400
                                                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 09:51 -0400
                                                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-05 10:12 -0700
                                                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 11:24 -0700
                                                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-05 16:09 -0400
                                                Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-04 21:57 -0400
                                          Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 14:28 -0700
                                  Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 05:16 -0700
                                    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 10:26 -0400
                                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-09-10 11:38 -0400
                                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 12:02 -0400
                                      Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-09-10 09:16 -0700
                                        Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-10 14:53 -0400
    Re: Better breakdown of OS/browser share Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 18:46 -0700

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#318993

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 20:27 +0000
Message-ID<d4ud55F1834U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#318988
On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:17:31 -0700, Snit wrote:

> On 9/4/15, 1:11 PM, in article d4uc7bF1834U1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
> Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 12:58:13 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> On 9/4/15, 12:50 PM, in article d4ub00FiqsU2@mid.individual.net,
>>> "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> <http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tuition-
>> housing-
>>>> cpi1.
>>>>>> jpg> OR <http://goo.gl/SlnFhr>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you exclude those who can't afford it from getting a higher
>>>>> education then you're essentially saying that only those from fairly
>>>>> wealthy families where the parents are well-educated can get into
>>>>> University. Genetically and socially, they are already a lot more
>>>>> intelligent than the absolute _everyone_ who can study here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We're a lot more fair, you're a lot more exclusive whether anyone
>>>>> likes it or not. In the end, our general population is more educated
>>>>> as a result of how accessible it still is.
>>>> 
>>>> While being a bit better off financially makes it easier to afford
>>>> higher education here, it is not all that difficult for those of
>>>> lesser means. Loans and grants are all over the place to help, and
>>>> there are many that also work their way through college.  It isn't a
>>>> lack of money that keeps some from doing it, it is more a lack of
>>>> fortitude and willingness to explore all the options.
>>> 
>>> And the fact the costs keep going up much faster than inflation.
>>> 
>>> How long ago did you pay for school? My first degree was in the 1990s
>>> and I paid for it with few grants (got one for one semester) and no
>>> other assistance. I worked my way through it. Now a college student
>>> coming out of high school would find that MUCH harder. It is insane.
>> 
>> I used the Vietnam era GI Bill.
>> 
>> But today isn't insane, it just requires more work to obtain the funds.
> 
> Not just more work... loans you get stuck with for decades. Choices
> which 18 year olds have to make which can leave the stuck in debt for
> the next 18 years and more (a lot more).
>
You mean loans for specious degrees that have no financial viability?  
For instance, why get a fat loan for a degree in social work which is a 
very low paying field?  Shouldn't be loaning money for that and most 
assuredly not loaning via guaranteed student loans.

Scale loans to fit the field and then tell the colleges that the days of 
all that free money to them is over.  There is little reason for the 
extremely higher cost for education.  If the story is the professors want 
more money, then hire cheaper professors and let those that want to get 
rich on campus go into the private sector.

 
>> I have yet to see anyone that wanted to go to college not get there
>> because of money.  Usually the ones that don't, don't have enough fire
>> in their belly.
> 
> What you see is not the question - I am talking about what is. And what
> is is that college cost not just a little more than it did for you but a
> lot more. Insanely more.
> 
> The government uses students as profit makers instead of treating their
> education like the investment in the country that it is.

Bullshit!  The government is not the one making the fat profits off these 
loans.  It is the schools, especially the more specious ones and the 
banks making the loans without any incentive for them to be more 
selective in which degrees they will loan whatever amount.  





-- 
Lloyd

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#319008

FromHoppy Hopkins <hopster86u4me@surferb.net>
Date2015-09-04 18:28 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.3053e50012c18a9198973e@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#318993
In article <D20F6665.59F56%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, 
usenet@gallopinginsanity.com says...
 
 
> I work for colleges and see what is cut back.

Sure you do snit.
In between your trolling usenet 24x7?
Where do you find the time?
Or maybe you are trolling when the college expects you to be working?
They have a lot in common with your wife, Anne Glasser.
She too wishes you would find a job so she didn't have to work her ass 
off while you troll.

You are a fucking parasite snit.
A lying son of a bitch who belongs in jail for defrauding the U.S. 
Government by collecting a disability paycheck.
You lying sack of shit, Michael Glasser. Why don't you do everyone, 
including your family, a favor and relocate to northern Siberia where 
the Internet doesn't exist. Maybe it will cure you of your parasitic 
nature and the need for attention.
It might interest you to know that Udemy already knows all about your 
professional trolling hobby.

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#318990

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 13:21 -0700
Message-ID<b4db9cfb-fe0b-46c7-9593-a867064d23c7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#318986
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:11:26 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 12:58:13 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
> > On 9/4/15, 12:50 PM, in article d4ub00FiqsU2@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
> > Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>>> <http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tuition-
> housing-
> >> cpi1.
> >>>> jpg> OR <http://goo.gl/SlnFhr>
> >>>> ...
> >>> 
> >>> If you exclude those who can't afford it from getting a higher
> >>> education then you're essentially saying that only those from fairly
> >>> wealthy families where the parents are well-educated can get into
> >>> University. Genetically and socially, they are already a lot more
> >>> intelligent than the absolute _everyone_ who can study here.
> >>> 
> >>> We're a lot more fair, you're a lot more exclusive whether anyone
> >>> likes it or not. In the end, our general population is more educated
> >>> as a result of how accessible it still is.
> >> 
> >> While being a bit better off financially makes it easier to afford
> >> higher education here, it is not all that difficult for those of lesser
> >> means. Loans and grants are all over the place to help, and there are
> >> many that also work their way through college.  It isn't a lack of
> >> money that keeps some from doing it, it is more a lack of fortitude and
> >> willingness to explore all the options.
> > 
> > And the fact the costs keep going up much faster than inflation.
> > 
> > How long ago did you pay for school? My first degree was in the 1990s
> > and I paid for it with few grants (got one for one semester) and no
> > other assistance. I worked my way through it. 

Pull the other one.

> > Now a college student
> > coming out of high school would find that MUCH harder. It is insane.
> 
> I used the Vietnam era GI Bill.
> 
> But today isn't insane, it just requires more work to obtain the funds.  
> I have yet to see anyone that wanted to go to college not get there 
> because of money.  Usually the ones that don't, don't have enough fire in 
> their belly.

And they don't because they've gotten used to having so much just handed to them. You might notice that Snit has complained about rising education costs and low teacher pay, like the two are mutually exclusive. The reality is what you're saying it is, for too many, there is a lack of drive to attend college. If you want 'The State' to pay for everything, it's going to cost you dearly, ask Greece. If you want someone who will value an education and use it to do more than troll usenet with, make them pay for it.

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#318997

FromLloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 20:33 +0000
Message-ID<d4udg9F1834U5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#318990
On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:21:40 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:

> On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:11:26 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 12:58:13 -0700, Snit wrote:
>> 
>> > On 9/4/15, 12:50 PM, in article d4ub00FiqsU2@mid.individual.net,
>> > "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>>> <http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tuition-
>> housing-
>> >> cpi1.
>> >>>> jpg> OR <http://goo.gl/SlnFhr>
>> >>>> ...
>> >>> 
>> >>> If you exclude those who can't afford it from getting a higher
>> >>> education then you're essentially saying that only those from
>> >>> fairly wealthy families where the parents are well-educated can get
>> >>> into University. Genetically and socially, they are already a lot
>> >>> more intelligent than the absolute _everyone_ who can study here.
>> >>> 
>> >>> We're a lot more fair, you're a lot more exclusive whether anyone
>> >>> likes it or not. In the end, our general population is more
>> >>> educated as a result of how accessible it still is.
>> >> 
>> >> While being a bit better off financially makes it easier to afford
>> >> higher education here, it is not all that difficult for those of
>> >> lesser means. Loans and grants are all over the place to help, and
>> >> there are many that also work their way through college.  It isn't a
>> >> lack of money that keeps some from doing it, it is more a lack of
>> >> fortitude and willingness to explore all the options.
>> > 
>> > And the fact the costs keep going up much faster than inflation.
>> > 
>> > How long ago did you pay for school? My first degree was in the 1990s
>> > and I paid for it with few grants (got one for one semester) and no
>> > other assistance. I worked my way through it.
> 
> Pull the other one.
> 
>> > Now a college student coming out of high school would find that MUCH
>> > harder. It is insane.
>> 
>> I used the Vietnam era GI Bill.
>> 
>> But today isn't insane, it just requires more work to obtain the funds.
>> I have yet to see anyone that wanted to go to college not get there
>> because of money.  Usually the ones that don't, don't have enough fire
>> in their belly.
> 
> And they don't because they've gotten used to having so much just handed
> to them. You might notice that Snit has complained about rising
> education costs and low teacher pay, like the two are mutually
> exclusive. The reality is what you're saying it is, for too many, there
> is a lack of drive to attend college. If you want 'The State' to pay for
> everything, it's going to cost you dearly, ask Greece. If you want
> someone who will value an education and use it to do more than troll
> usenet with, make them pay for it.

When I was recruiting for the Navy the emphasis was on high school 
graduates and not GEDs or dropouts.  Not because they were smarter or 
even really more educated, but because it was a good indicator of 
willingness to complete a task ahead of them.

I see jobs for electronics techs that require a degree.  Utter hogwash, a 
tech doesn't need a degree he/she needs a technical certificate and will 
be more than qualified for an entry level tech job.  He/she can learn the 
rest during the rest of their work years.




-- 
Lloyd

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#319002

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 13:46 -0700
Message-ID<58b023ae-b069-476c-a0c9-ecb59d5a9288@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#318997
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:33:16 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 13:21:40 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 2:11:26 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> >> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 12:58:13 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On 9/4/15, 12:50 PM, in article d4ub00FiqsU2@mid.individual.net,
> >> > "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > 
> >> >>>> <http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/tuition-
> >> housing-
> >> >> cpi1.
> >> >>>> jpg> OR <http://goo.gl/SlnFhr>
> >> >>>> ...
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> If you exclude those who can't afford it from getting a higher
> >> >>> education then you're essentially saying that only those from
> >> >>> fairly wealthy families where the parents are well-educated can get
> >> >>> into University. Genetically and socially, they are already a lot
> >> >>> more intelligent than the absolute _everyone_ who can study here.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> We're a lot more fair, you're a lot more exclusive whether anyone
> >> >>> likes it or not. In the end, our general population is more
> >> >>> educated as a result of how accessible it still is.
> >> >> 
> >> >> While being a bit better off financially makes it easier to afford
> >> >> higher education here, it is not all that difficult for those of
> >> >> lesser means. Loans and grants are all over the place to help, and
> >> >> there are many that also work their way through college.  It isn't a
> >> >> lack of money that keeps some from doing it, it is more a lack of
> >> >> fortitude and willingness to explore all the options.
> >> > 
> >> > And the fact the costs keep going up much faster than inflation.
> >> > 
> >> > How long ago did you pay for school? My first degree was in the 1990s
> >> > and I paid for it with few grants (got one for one semester) and no
> >> > other assistance. I worked my way through it.
> > 
> > Pull the other one.
> > 
> >> > Now a college student coming out of high school would find that MUCH
> >> > harder. It is insane.
> >> 
> >> I used the Vietnam era GI Bill.
> >> 
> >> But today isn't insane, it just requires more work to obtain the funds.
> >> I have yet to see anyone that wanted to go to college not get there
> >> because of money.  Usually the ones that don't, don't have enough fire
> >> in their belly.
> > 
> > And they don't because they've gotten used to having so much just handed
> > to them. You might notice that Snit has complained about rising
> > education costs and low teacher pay, like the two are mutually
> > exclusive. The reality is what you're saying it is, for too many, there
> > is a lack of drive to attend college. If you want 'The State' to pay for
> > everything, it's going to cost you dearly, ask Greece. If you want
> > someone who will value an education and use it to do more than troll
> > usenet with, make them pay for it.
> 
> When I was recruiting for the Navy the emphasis was on high school 
> graduates and not GEDs or dropouts.  Not because they were smarter or 
> even really more educated, but because it was a good indicator of 
> willingness to complete a task ahead of them.

My dad was in the navy and got an EE from NYU on the WWII GI bill. Like many in his day, he enlisted before he was able to finish high school.

> I see jobs for electronics techs that require a degree.  Utter hogwash, a 
> tech doesn't need a degree he/she needs a technical certificate and will 
> be more than qualified for an entry level tech job.  He/she can learn the 
> rest during the rest of their work years.

At one point I worked QC/QA in an optics labs for a laser company and I went in knowing nothing about lasers or optics (and no degree). I doubt you could do that now.

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#319006

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 14:49 -0700
Message-ID<17e82d13-7081-4224-a857-379ffd8a9e82@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#318997
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 3:05:18 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 14:01:54 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
> > On 9/4/15, 1:33 PM, in article d4udg9F1834U5@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
> > Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>>> But today isn't insane, it just requires more work to obtain the
> >>>> funds.
> >>>> I have yet to see anyone that wanted to go to college not get there
> >>>> because of money.  Usually the ones that don't, don't have enough
> >>>> fire in their belly.
> >>> 
> >>> And they don't because they've gotten used to having so much just
> >>> handed to them. You might notice that Snit has complained about rising
> >>> education costs and low teacher pay, like the two are mutually
> >>> exclusive. The reality is what you're saying it is, for too many,
> >>> there is a lack of drive to attend college. If you want 'The State' to
> >>> pay for everything, it's going to cost you dearly, ask Greece. If you
> >>> want someone who will value an education and use it to do more than
> >>> troll usenet with, make them pay for it.
> >> 
> >> When I was recruiting for the Navy the emphasis was on high school
> >> graduates and not GEDs or dropouts.  Not because they were smarter or
> >> even really more educated, but because it was a good indicator of
> >> willingness to complete a task ahead of them.
> >> 
> >> I see jobs for electronics techs that require a degree.  Utter hogwash,
> >> a tech doesn't need a degree he/she needs a technical certificate and
> >> will be more than qualified for an entry level tech job.  He/she can
> >> learn the rest during the rest of their work years.
> > 
> > Seems like you do not see the value in an education. That makes a
> > difference in how you see it as an investment.

It seems like that based on what? Oh... your 'psych degree'... nevermind.

> Some more of your bullshit.  I very well see the value of an education, 
> but I don't agree with over education.  Note the difference?

You're seriously asking that question of the holder of a Masters degree in IT who does nothing but troll usenet 24/7/365 and has for over a decade? You just know he needed every one of those credits for this 'job' ;)


> A job that does not really need more education shouldn't have a 
> requirement to have it just to fill out a checkmark on some HR's form.
> I'm very well educated just not formally so.  I read incessantly and am 
> always looking at new subjects to learn.  Doesn't take a classroom to do 
> it and it sure doesn't take a 'professor' that knows little more than I 
> do to learn it from.

True in many cases. Take, for example, what Snit's business is in... I even taught my kids more about web development than he knows (and he teaches it!). I'm sure he's wondering why they cut his physical classroom time down to a couple of online classes (that probably very few are taking). The answer is that he's lazy and this field moves way too fast for lazy people. Instead of futzing around with Applescript and recipes in COLA, he should be leveraging that knowledge into learning Javascript and applying it to his business. But he won't because it'd mean he'd have to actually work for a change. It always amazed me how people who don't work for a living, who are living off taxpayer dollars when they are fully capable of not doing so, have the right to vote.

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#319011

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 16:34 -0700
Message-ID<5945efbb-695b-4e63-9738-8eb6701c178b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#318997
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 4:25:22 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/15, 2:05 PM, in article d4ufc8F1834U10@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
> Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ...
> >>> I see jobs for electronics techs that require a degree.  Utter hogwash,
> >>> a tech doesn't need a degree he/she needs a technical certificate and
> >>> will be more than qualified for an entry level tech job.  He/she can
> >>> learn the rest during the rest of their work years.
> >> 
> >> Seems like you do not see the value in an education. That makes a
> >> difference in how you see it as an investment.
> > 
> > Some more of your bullshit.
> 
> Nope. I am noting you are speaking of education as something that does not
> matter.

Nah, that's just what you got out of it because you're so 'educated' ;)

> But it does. Heck, an educated person would have known better than
> you to blindly accuse someone of something they did not do and would not
> do... but you did that the other day. This shows a lacking in *your*
> education. You failed to understand the basics of logic and burden of proof.

Feel free to prove he said that education is "something that does not matter" any time you feel you can, lying hypocrite.

> > I very well see the value of an education, but I don't agree with over
> > education.  Note the difference?
> 
> Yes: word play to put down the value of an education. 

Said Snit as the simple point sailed far over his head.

> We are so amazingly
> far from being an "over-educated" society that we can safely ignore that
> risk.

I guess when you have people with Masters degrees who can't read you really can't argue with that. LOL!

(snip more of Snit being a contentious prick to cover his over shortcomings)

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#319012

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 16:37 -0700
Message-ID<77e5071b-fe76-42e6-bf38-3fe002a0f186@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#318997
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 5:02:01 PM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Sep 2015 15:25:15 -0700, Snit wrote:
> 
> > On 9/4/15, 2:05 PM, in article d4ufc8F1834U10@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd
> > Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> >>>> I see jobs for electronics techs that require a degree.  Utter
> >>>> hogwash,
> >>>> a tech doesn't need a degree he/she needs a technical certificate and
> >>>> will be more than qualified for an entry level tech job.  He/she can
> >>>> learn the rest during the rest of their work years.
> >>> 
> >>> Seems like you do not see the value in an education. That makes a
> >>> difference in how you see it as an investment.
> >> 
> >> Some more of your bullshit.
> > 
> > Nope. I am noting you are speaking of education as something that does
> > not matter. But it does. Heck, an educated person would have known
> > better than you to blindly accuse someone of something they did not do
> > and would not do... but you did that the other day. This shows a lacking
> > in *your* education. You failed to understand the basics of logic and
> > burden of proof.
> > 
> >> I very well see the value of an education, but I don't agree with over
> >> education.  Note the difference?
> > 
> > Yes: word play to put down the value of an education. We are so
> > amazingly far from being an "over-educated" society that we can safely
> > ignore that risk. How many people in this country understand the BASICS
> > of climate science? How many understand the scientific method at all?
> > Without an educated population we cannot have a successful democratic
> > process.
> > 
> >> A job that does not really need more education shouldn't have a
> >> requirement to have it just to fill out a checkmark on some HR's form.
> > 
> > Straw man. Nobody is suggesting this.
> > 
> >> I'm very well educated just not formally so.  I read incessantly and am
> >> always looking at new subjects to learn.  Doesn't take a classroom to
> >> do it and it sure doesn't take a 'professor' that knows little more
> >> than I do to learn it from.
> > 
> > I have no problem with people educating themselves... but that is just
> > another side issue. But if you are so educated why did you make a
> > horrendous logical and ethical error in publicly accusing me of things I
> > did not and would not do? This shows your "education" to be lacking,
> > even if you read a lot.
> 
> I should have known better than to engage with you.  So back to ignore 
> for you.

One of the great mysteries of life: 

How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can comprehend what he's read?

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#319013

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-09-04 20:18 -0400
Message-ID<msdca8$6jb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319012
On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:

> One of the great mysteries of life:
>
> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can comprehend what he's read?


Without much trouble.

It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've read 
that's a problem...



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#319015

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-04 17:40 -0700
Message-ID<b17d4a8a-2185-4ff9-adb0-4b5e00c3b808@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#319013
On Friday, September 4, 2015 at 6:19:04 PM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
> > One of the great mysteries of life:
> >
> > How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can comprehend what he's read?
> 
> 
> Without much trouble.
> 
> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've read 
> that's a problem...

Obviously what I meant... he gets me laughing that hard ;)

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#319018

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-09-04 21:18 -0400
Message-ID<msdfpk$fa5$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319013
On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>> One of the great mysteries of life:
>>
>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can comprehend
>> what he's read?
> 
> 
> Without much trouble.
> 
> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've read
> that's a problem...

Is he saying that I misread something?

-- 
A.M

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#319069

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-09-05 09:53 -0400
Message-ID<mses10$nf0$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319018
On 2015-09-05 2:21 AM, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/15, 6:18 PM, in article msdfpk$fa5$2@dont-email.me, "A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
>>> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of the great mysteries of life:
>>>>
>>>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can comprehend
>>>> what he's read?
>>>
>>>
>>> Without much trouble.
>>>
>>> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've read
>>> that's a problem...
>>
>> Is he saying that I misread something?
> 
> It is Carroll... even if he means your text you can bet he applied it to me.
> Everything he sees that he thinks is wrong he attributes to me.
> 
> If we were to dig back through the thread I would bet Carroll is accusing
> someone of not understanding based on his own inability to follow a
> conversation. That is his norm.
> 
> Then, no matter who was involved, if this is pointed out he will blame me.
> 
> Ten years of his insanity.

Meh, I was sure that he was referring to me at which point I was curious
as to what I had misread.


-- 
A.M

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#319141

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-05 11:11 -0700
Message-ID<D2107E7A.5A04C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#319069
On 9/5/15, 6:53 AM, in article mses10$nf0$2@dont-email.me, "A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
wrote:

> On 2015-09-05 2:21 AM, Snit wrote:
>> On 9/4/15, 6:18 PM, in article msdfpk$fa5$2@dont-email.me, "A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> One of the great mysteries of life:
>>>>> 
>>>>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can comprehend
>>>>> what he's read?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Without much trouble.
>>>> 
>>>> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've read
>>>> that's a problem...
>>> 
>>> Is he saying that I misread something?
>> 
>> It is Carroll... even if he means your text you can bet he applied it to me.
>> Everything he sees that he thinks is wrong he attributes to me.
>> 
>> If we were to dig back through the thread I would bet Carroll is accusing
>> someone of not understanding based on his own inability to follow a
>> conversation. That is his norm.
>> 
>> Then, no matter who was involved, if this is pointed out he will blame me.
>> 
>> Ten years of his insanity.
> 
> Meh, I was sure that he was referring to me at which point I was curious
> as to what I had misread.

You can pretty much count on it that any time Carroll is spewing obtuse
insults they are directed at me or someone he is accusing of being my sock /
shill. For over a decade.

Something is wrong with that guy.


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#319076

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-09-05 10:21 -0400
Message-ID<msetlf$soc$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319018
On 9/4/2015 9:18 PM, A.M wrote:
> On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
>> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>
>>> One of the great mysteries of life:
>>>
>>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can comprehend
>>> what he's read?
>>
>>
>> Without much trouble.
>>
>> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've read
>> that's a problem...
>
> Is he saying that I misread something?


No.

Carroll was indulging in his sickening obsession.

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#319084

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-05 08:09 -0700
Message-ID<ea4b8bd6-4ec1-4a00-b192-e97323732563@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#319076
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 8:21:19 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> On 9/4/2015 9:18 PM, A.M wrote:
> > On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
> >> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>
> >>> One of the great mysteries of life:
> >>>
> >>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can comprehend
> >>> what he's read?
> >>
> >>
> >> Without much trouble.
> >>
> >> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've read
> >> that's a problem...
> >
> > Is he saying that I misread something?
> 
> 
> No.
> 
> Carroll was indulging in his sickening obsession.

LOL!  I know how you and Snit like a good recap...

Snit, seemingly unable to comprehend what he read of what Lloyd wrote, pounded in the first tent stake for his new circus:

"Seems like you do not see the value in an education."

Lloyd: 
"Some more of your bullshit."

Snit, now just flat out lying, pounded the next stake in place:
"Nope. I am noting you are speaking of education as something that does not matter."

Lloyd's point: "A job that does not really need more education shouldn't have a requirement to have it just to fill out a checkmark on some HR's form." 

Regarding that point, Lloyd asked:
"I very well see the value of an education, but I don't agree with over education.  Note the difference?"

Snit, intent on pounding in his next tent stake: 
"Yes: word play to put down the value of an education."

IOW, as he so often does, Snit was trying to dishonestly stuff words into someone's mouth, which is "wrong". Snit has repeatedly asked for his "wrongs" to be pointed out. I'm pointing them out.  Snit is whining, which is what he does... and you're doing whatever it is that you do, which looks a lot like whining ;)

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#319100

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-09-05 11:42 -0400
Message-ID<msf2dg$g3c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319084
On 9/5/2015 11:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 8:21:19 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
>> On 9/4/2015 9:18 PM, A.M wrote:
>>> On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One of the great mysteries of life:
>>>>>
>>>>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can
>>>>> comprehend what he's read?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Without much trouble.
>>>>
>>>> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've
>>>> read that's a problem...
>>>
>>> Is he saying that I misread something?
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Carroll was indulging in his sickening obsession.
>
> LOL!  I know how you and Snit like a good recap...
 >
> Snit, seemingly unable to comprehend what he read of what Lloyd
> wrote, pounded in the first tent stake for his new circus:
>
> "Seems like you do not see the value in an education."
>
> Lloyd: "Some more of your bullshit."
>
> Snit, now just flat out lying, pounded the next stake in place:
> "Nope. I am noting you are speaking of education as something that
> does not matter."
>
> Lloyd's point: "A job that does not really need more education
> shouldn't have a requirement to have it just to fill out a checkmark
> on some HR's form."
>
> Regarding that point, Lloyd asked: "I very well see the value of an
> education, but I don't agree with over education.  Note the
> difference?"
>
> Snit, intent on pounding in his next tent stake: "Yes: word play to
> put down the value of an education."
>
> IOW, as he so often does, Snit was trying to dishonestly stuff words
> into someone's mouth, which is "wrong". Snit has repeatedly asked for
> his "wrongs" to be pointed out. I'm pointing them out.Snit is
> whining, which is what he does... and you're doing whatever it is
> that you do, which looks a lot like whining ;)


Don't take it so hard.  I just told Slimer the truth:

"Carroll was indulging in his sickening obsession."

You know it and I know it and everyone who reads cola knows it: a Steve 
Carroll post will be a disturbing one-way tirade against his obsession. 
  For years on end.

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#319105

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-09-05 08:46 -0700
Message-ID<fce0431a-9c9c-4e8e-81f3-f2020d1768f6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#319100
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 9:42:24 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> On 9/5/2015 11:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 8:21:19 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> >> On 9/4/2015 9:18 PM, A.M wrote:
> >>> On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
> >>>> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> One of the great mysteries of life:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can
> >>>>> comprehend what he's read?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Without much trouble.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've
> >>>> read that's a problem...
> >>>
> >>> Is he saying that I misread something?
> >>
> >>
> >> No.
> >>
> >> Carroll was indulging in his sickening obsession.
> >
> > LOL!  I know how you and Snit like a good recap...
>  >
> > Snit, seemingly unable to comprehend what he read of what Lloyd
> > wrote, pounded in the first tent stake for his new circus:
> >
> > "Seems like you do not see the value in an education."
> >
> > Lloyd: "Some more of your bullshit."
> >
> > Snit, now just flat out lying, pounded the next stake in place:
> > "Nope. I am noting you are speaking of education as something that
> > does not matter."
> >
> > Lloyd's point: "A job that does not really need more education
> > shouldn't have a requirement to have it just to fill out a checkmark
> > on some HR's form."
> >
> > Regarding that point, Lloyd asked: "I very well see the value of an
> > education, but I don't agree with over education.  Note the
> > difference?"
> >
> > Snit, intent on pounding in his next tent stake: "Yes: word play to
> > put down the value of an education."
> >
> > IOW, as he so often does, Snit was trying to dishonestly stuff words
> > into someone's mouth, which is "wrong". Snit has repeatedly asked for
> > his "wrongs" to be pointed out. I'm pointing them out.Snit is
> > whining, which is what he does... and you're doing whatever it is
> > that you do, which looks a lot like whining ;)
> 
> 
> Don't take it so hard.

Sorry, your whining isn't going to stop me from fulfilling the commitment I made to Snit ;)

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#319109

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-09-05 11:54 -0400
Message-ID<msf35a$ivb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319105
On 9/5/2015 11:46 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 9:42:24 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
>> On 9/5/2015 11:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 8:21:19 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 9/4/2015 9:18 PM, A.M wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of the great mysteries of life:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can
>>>>>>> comprehend what he's read?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without much trouble.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've
>>>>>> read that's a problem...
>>>>>
>>>>> Is he saying that I misread something?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> Carroll was indulging in his sickening obsession.
>>>
>>> LOL!  I know how you and Snit like a good recap...
>>   >
>>> Snit, seemingly unable to comprehend what he read of what Lloyd
>>> wrote, pounded in the first tent stake for his new circus:
>>>
>>> "Seems like you do not see the value in an education."
>>>
>>> Lloyd: "Some more of your bullshit."
>>>
>>> Snit, now just flat out lying, pounded the next stake in place:
>>> "Nope. I am noting you are speaking of education as something that
>>> does not matter."
>>>
>>> Lloyd's point: "A job that does not really need more education
>>> shouldn't have a requirement to have it just to fill out a checkmark
>>> on some HR's form."
>>>
>>> Regarding that point, Lloyd asked: "I very well see the value of an
>>> education, but I don't agree with over education.  Note the
>>> difference?"
>>>
>>> Snit, intent on pounding in his next tent stake: "Yes: word play to
>>> put down the value of an education."
>>>
>>> IOW, as he so often does, Snit was trying to dishonestly stuff words
>>> into someone's mouth, which is "wrong". Snit has repeatedly asked for
>>> his "wrongs" to be pointed out. I'm pointing them out.Snit is
>>> whining, which is what he does... and you're doing whatever it is
>>> that you do, which looks a lot like whining ;)
>>
>>
>> Don't take it so hard.
>
> Sorry, your whining isn't going to stop me from fulfilling the commitment I made to Snit ;)


ha!

Yes, I as well as anyone know nothing can stop an addict if he's 
determined.  I once quit posting to cola for 10 straight months - but it 
was a daily battle... heh!

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#319176

From"A.M" <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-09-05 16:05 -0400
Message-ID<msfhr1$cud$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319109
On 2015-09-05 11:54 AM, DFS wrote:
> On 9/5/2015 11:46 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 9:42:24 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
>>> On 9/5/2015 11:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 8:21:19 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
>>>>> On 9/4/2015 9:18 PM, A.M wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the great mysteries of life:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can
>>>>>>>> comprehend what he's read?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without much trouble.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've
>>>>>>> read that's a problem...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is he saying that I misread something?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carroll was indulging in his sickening obsession.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!  I know how you and Snit like a good recap...
>>>   >
>>>> Snit, seemingly unable to comprehend what he read of what Lloyd
>>>> wrote, pounded in the first tent stake for his new circus:
>>>>
>>>> "Seems like you do not see the value in an education."
>>>>
>>>> Lloyd: "Some more of your bullshit."
>>>>
>>>> Snit, now just flat out lying, pounded the next stake in place:
>>>> "Nope. I am noting you are speaking of education as something that
>>>> does not matter."
>>>>
>>>> Lloyd's point: "A job that does not really need more education
>>>> shouldn't have a requirement to have it just to fill out a checkmark
>>>> on some HR's form."
>>>>
>>>> Regarding that point, Lloyd asked: "I very well see the value of an
>>>> education, but I don't agree with over education.  Note the
>>>> difference?"
>>>>
>>>> Snit, intent on pounding in his next tent stake: "Yes: word play to
>>>> put down the value of an education."
>>>>
>>>> IOW, as he so often does, Snit was trying to dishonestly stuff words
>>>> into someone's mouth, which is "wrong". Snit has repeatedly asked for
>>>> his "wrongs" to be pointed out. I'm pointing them out.Snit is
>>>> whining, which is what he does... and you're doing whatever it is
>>>> that you do, which looks a lot like whining ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't take it so hard.
>>
>> Sorry, your whining isn't going to stop me from fulfilling the
>> commitment I made to Snit ;)
> 
> 
> ha!
> 
> Yes, I as well as anyone know nothing can stop an addict if he's
> determined.  I once quit posting to cola for 10 straight months - but it
> was a daily battle... heh!

I can quit tomorrow if I wanted to, but if I did, the Linux losers would
end up thinking that I left because THEY somehow succeeded in getting
rid of me and not because I got tired of talking about a shitty
operating system.


-- 
A.M

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#319112

Fromhifye <hifye@humanoid.net>
Date2015-09-05 11:58 -0400
Message-ID<msf3bc$jkr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#319105
Steve Carroll was thinking very hard :
> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 9:42:24 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
>> On 9/5/2015 11:09 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015 at 8:21:19 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
>>>> On 9/4/2015 9:18 PM, A.M wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-09-04 8:18 PM, DFS wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/4/2015 7:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> One of the great mysteries of life:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How does one go about getting a Masters degree when he can
>>>>>>> comprehend what he's read?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Without much trouble.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's getting a Master's when you /can't/ comprehend what you've
>>>>>> read that's a problem...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is he saying that I misread something?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No.
>>>> 
>>>> Carroll was indulging in his sickening obsession.
>>> 
>>> LOL!  I know how you and Snit like a good recap...  >
>>> Snit, seemingly unable to comprehend what he read of what Lloyd
>>> wrote, pounded in the first tent stake for his new circus:
>>> 
>>> "Seems like you do not see the value in an education."
>>> 
>>> Lloyd: "Some more of your bullshit."
>>> 
>>> Snit, now just flat out lying, pounded the next stake in place:
>>> "Nope. I am noting you are speaking of education as something that
>>> does not matter."
>>> 
>>> Lloyd's point: "A job that does not really need more education
>>> shouldn't have a requirement to have it just to fill out a checkmark
>>> on some HR's form."
>>> 
>>> Regarding that point, Lloyd asked: "I very well see the value of an
>>> education, but I don't agree with over education.  Note the
>>> difference?"
>>> 
>>> Snit, intent on pounding in his next tent stake: "Yes: word play to
>>> put down the value of an education."
>>> 
>>> IOW, as he so often does, Snit was trying to dishonestly stuff words
>>> into someone's mouth, which is "wrong". Snit has repeatedly asked for
>>> his "wrongs" to be pointed out. I'm pointing them out.Snit is
>>> whining, which is what he does... and you're doing whatever it is
>>> that you do, which looks a lot like whining ;)
>> 
>> 
>> Don't take it so hard.
>
> Sorry, your whining isn't going to stop me from fulfilling the commitment I 
> made to Snit ;)

So when is the wedding? Is everyone from COLA invited? How about Karen?

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