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| From | "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism |
| Subject | Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. |
| Date | 2015-08-19 10:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <d3iv9oF6bmdU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (10 earlier) <b0ab36ab-3f79-4496-b325-9a9ae530f140@googlegroups.com> <hlwdjsd2-524015.16125317082015@news.giganews.com> <mqujad$gfe$4@dont-email.me> <ced9c754-cf20-4431-831d-368869c12fdc@googlegroups.com> <mr0hqq$2h7$5@dont-email.me> |
On 19/08/2015 01:04, niunian wrote: > On 2015-08-18 11:34 PM, nature bats last wrote: >> On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 11:30:15 PM UTC-7, niunian wrote: >>> On 2015-08-18 07:12 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote: >>>> In article <b0ab36ab-3f79-4496-b325-9a9ae530f140@googlegroups.com>, >>>> nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 10:49:44 AM UTC-7, niunian wrote: >>>>>> On 2015-08-17 11:56 PM, nature bats last wrote: >>>>>>> On Sunday, August 16, 2015 at 8:11:51 PM UTC-7, niunian wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 11:55 PM, John Ritson wrote: >>>>>>>>> In article <mqpvas$r80$1@dont-email.me>, niunian >>>>>>>>> <niunian@ymail.com> >>>>>>>>> writes >>>>>>>>>> On 2015-08-16 01:33 PM, William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In article <mqke7b$vf2$10@dont-email.me>, >>>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> William December Starr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> niunian <niunian@ymail.com> said: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Living itself is a purpose. And it is a great purpose. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worship the God of living. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I guess if you're going to anthropomorphize -- excuse me, >>>>>>>>>>>>> deus-morphize -- _any_ concept, then yes, any concept is a >>>>>>>>>>>>> God of >>>>>>>>>>>>> something. That gets us rather deep into "so what?" territory >>>>>>>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Well, if we can agree on the fact of life which shows everybody >>>>>>>>>>>> including the atheists has a god of their own on a personal >>>>>>>>>>>> level, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We can't. You use the words 'god' and 'God' in ways that are so >>>>>>>>>>> non-standard that I doubt you make sense to anyone but yourself. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> That only because you have never thought of God/god on a personal >>>>>>>>>> level. >>>>>>>>>> God is not out there in the sky. God is within you who is the >>>>>>>>>> center >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> your life. You actually live your life for God even when you call >>>>>>>>>> yourself an atheist. >>>>>>>>> So (according to you) everybody lives their life for God. >>>>>>>>>> When you don't live your life for the God within >>>>>>>>>> you, you always suffer in life. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ..> > But since (according to you) everybody lives their life for >>>>>>> God, >>>>>>> nobody >>>>>>> ..> > 'always suffers'. >>>>>>> ..> > You are just talking rubbish. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ..> No. If we can always live our lives for God, we would never >>>>>>> suffer. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> .> > Try that one out on someone with reflex sympathetic dystrophy >>>>> .> > or paroxysmal extreme pain disorder or complex regional pain >>>>> syndrome. >>>>> >>>>> .> For people who have to live a difficult life, when they live >>>>> their life >>>>> .> for God, they may still have to endure the physical pain in >>>>> their body, >>>>> .> but they don't have to endure any mental suffering in their mind. >>>> >> >> .> > There are few things that cause "suffering in their mind" more than >> .> > perpetual severe pain. Why did you say something so incredibly >> stupid? >> >> .> Not really, the suffering in people's mind can only exist when >> there is >> .> an image of self in their mind which dominates their life. When a >> person >> .> stops living for that empty image and starts living for the spirit of >> .> God within him/her, suffering in their mind will be taken away by God. >> .> There will be no self pity or the feeling of personal failure and >> injury >> .> anymore. There will only be a simple acceptance of life and the desire >> .> to make the best of it whenever and however possible. >> >> And the suffering of the body continues. >> >> I would suggest that it would take nothing more elaborate >> than a thumbscrew to cause you to reconsider your insouciant >> attitude towards physical pain. > > I believe you, but that does not mean I have to add suffering on top of > the physical pain to make my life miserable. You can make my body > miserable, but I'm not going to help you to make my life miserable too. > Get married. Find out all about a miserable life.
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 01:33 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:24 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-16 10:55 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:01 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. John Ritson <j.ritson@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-08-16 16:55 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-17 13:39 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 12:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-18 11:55 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:10 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-08-17 14:38 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 08:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 01:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 11:02 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Jeanne Douglas <hlwdjsd2@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2015-08-17 16:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 14:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 08:34 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:13 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 12:26 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 07:08 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 09:31 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-21 09:59 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 21:05 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-21 18:44 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-22 08:50 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-22 07:03 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:37 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-19 10:07 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:21 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Dreamer In Colore <dreamerincolore@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-19 16:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-20 14:51 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 14:14 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 08:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 08:16 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-18 18:10 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 21:24 +0800
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